Bananas: The Atheist's So-Called "Nightmare"

Okay, I have one comment about this streaming video, but I will resist the urge to say anything until after you've watched it first (below the fold).

Oh yeah? Well, using that same er, "logic", gawd invented liquor because he wants us all to be raging alcoholics.

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Classic. After this came out, I discovered that friends who've never shown the least interest in religious arguments were suddenly passing snide comments whenever they came across one of these delectable fruits.

By Corkscrew (not verified) on 24 Jul 2006 #permalink

It kills me that anyone could take this argument seriously. The level of stupidity it takes to 1. form that "argument" and 20 believe it must register somewhere in the stratosphere.

That was a classic. Almost as good was the one where they interview the clueless at random and find people even less knowledgeable than themselves, which is supposed to prove something. The Twilight Zone ripoff in the beginning is hilarious.

And I guess that means apples were poorly designed by God . . . because they are not shaped like bananas.

Blecchh.

By this logic we should never eat meat (too hard to catch) or nuts (too hard to break). Or artichokes (too spiky), or . . . you get the iea.

When the bannanas are your only allies, you're trouble.

By DragonScholar (not verified) on 24 Jul 2006 #permalink

Ummm... you mean this isn't actually a parody?
*struck speechless by the depths of human stupidity*

Is that for real? It's so.... 19th-century. "God created the turbinado worm to bore into ships' timbers and provide work for ship-builders."

Uh... the narrator of that video clip forgot to mention that the pulp of wild bananas is inedible because it's packed full of hard, triangular seeds; and the banana of cultivation is a sterile triploid hybrid propagated, from cuttings, only by humans. The brown smudges inside a banana show where the seeds would be had they developed. I learned that in a 3rd-year Genetics course about 20 years ago... so it's not news. Maybe he should have talked to a banana farmer?

Too bad God, while making such a nifty fit of banana ridges to our hands, put so many darned seeds in the original wild fruit that we couldn't eat them until we'd fixed that through artificial breeding.

QQ:

Too bad God ... put so many darned seeds in the original wild fruit that we couldn't eat them until we'd fixed that through artificial breeding.

And that (as you obviously know, but I repeat for emphasis) is the killer -- bananas as we know them are designed (via selective breeding) by people. As they occur outside of human agriculture, bananas are mosly inedible seeds.

You "scientists" are so predictable. Why can't you just admit that the banana is a design so intelligent that even a monkey could use it?!?!?!!?

Oh... wait... can I take that back?

:-)

Does that mean that the bananas that grow in, say, the jungle or somewhere like that are not edible by humans?? How come different animals can eat them??

Does this mean that coconut and cucumber are the work of the Devil?

By Roadstone (not verified) on 25 Jul 2006 #permalink

Well, In the Bible here is how God says to tell that he is actually true. He says he will tell you the end from the beggining. Prophecy, Take a look at my web site, The two symbols that are supposed to be choosen by the last empire of the world (rome reborn) are the two symbols choosen by the EU. They even built there headquarters to resemble one. They made their cheif military office with document #666 and he makes 7 year peace treaties, which the bible says that the military ruler from the new roman empire will make a 7 year treaty with isreal. God also says he will make jerusalem a burdensome stone to all the world, and that isreal would be reborn after being scattered just before christ returns.
there are lots of other interesting co-incidences in nature that point to God, Like did you know that when the moon passes in front of the sun that it fits perfectly so that we can study just the carona? Do you know what the odds are for that?
Anyway, The truth you see is your being manipulated by strong spiritual critters that make sure you can't really see the truth about this or look at it objecively. That feeling your having while reading this, take a look at that, that powerful feeling to mock or maybye even some anger. Its to get you away from looking at this objectively, Your being duped, A strong "spirtual" force, Where does that come from? hmmmmmm. You could read something about other religions and never have it, but with the bible their is something preventing you from even looking at it objectively. Could you be the ones being fooled?....

Gosh, too bad after designing the moon to fit perfectly over the sun God then told us its only purpose was to rule the night and light the earth and be a marker for the seasons...

And, not to dump cold water on your idea, but I can mock anybody's religion.

timjordan wrote:

Do you know what the odds are for that?

Please, tell me, what ARE the odds for that?

Don't you think that is a bit like looking at a hole full of water and going "Wow, what are the odds that it would rain just enough to fill that hole of water".

The truth you see is your being manipulated by strong spiritual critters that make sure you can't really see the truth about this or look at it objecively.

Objectively speaking, this is the worst load of bull I've heard in a long time.

By Kristjan Wager (not verified) on 25 Jul 2006 #permalink

I have many comments, but I'll limit myself to

(1) Everyone else covered the domesticated bit adequately.

(2) I don't have nightmares about bananas. I think they're tasty.

But what about those uses for the banana that God reportedly doesn't approve of?

looks like some PG rated ad for a porn flick.....

By that logic, Texas barbecue is the work of satan. Clearly that man is a nut. We're not executing people for insanity in Texas this week, but we do lock them up. Can you send him down?

And by that logic, the human male organ . . .

Tim Jordan? Recommendation 666 (from 1986), deals with fire safety in hotels. Recommendation 666 (from 1999) deals with transporting goods by trucks on highways.

Do you know what the European Union is?

Come on...not a single penis joke?

"The banana and the hand are perfectly made, one for the other"

"when you pull the tab the contents don't squirt in your face"

"it has a point at the top for ease of entry and just the right shape for the human mouth...it's even curved toward the face to make the whole process even easier.

Curse me for having the maturity level of a pre-teen boy.

well, i apologize! you missed my penis comments. in a fit of "chickenhood" ("chicken-ness"?), i deleted them about 36 hours after i wrote them! however, one sentence from my penis comments were quoted by Seed Media on their front page, and i was told by the mothership that my comments were quite funny, too. after hearing that, i regreted deleting my comments. boo on me!

one of these days, i should write a series about testosterone, androgen receptors, reproductive behavior and penis size -- my dissertation specialty. but seriously, this topic doesn't differ much from the typical bar scene, really, at least from my point of view.

Please, this has to be a parody, perhaps inspired by the Medieval dufus who praised God for making all the rivers run past the towns.

I'm serious when I say "please". I'm begging someone to tell me this is a parody.

I'm begging someone to tell me this is a parody.

It isn't.

Does that mean that the bananas that grow in, say, the jungle or somewhere like that are not edible by humans?? How come different animals can eat them??

Other animals eat the human-introduced cultivars. Edible bananas DO NOT occur naturaly in any jungle.

Evidence in favour of design: banana
Evidence against design: Orange. Spherical, no easy access, and squirts acidic liquid into your eyes upon opening.

By Alexander Whiteside (not verified) on 28 Jul 2006 #permalink

They must have cut out the joke parts (or at least the before and after for a reason) that was too stupid to be real, and that interviewer guy looked to be holding in laughter....

well if naturally occurring bananas are inedible (and i am not saying they aren't), then why did anyone ever think to selectively breed them? why doesn't anyone do that with acorns or poison ivy? and why does God hate us?

I guess by this guys definition... Pineapples must be the work of the evil one..... and what about coconuts? I guess sour cherries were in his design cause he knew we would make pie

That is by far the worst evidence of the almighty.

timjordan, where in the world or elsewhere did you get the bit about how "the cheif military office" (sic), who is a "he", "makes 7 year peace treaties"? It is absolute, complete, utter bullshit. For starters, the EU has never been at war with anyone -- how can there be a peace treaty?

You've been duped, you see. You wanted to be duped, in that you wanted a simple answer quick, instead of having to think -- that made it a lot easier. You have been duped by evil people; "strong spiritual critters" are not necessary for that. (You'll learn something by reading Good Omens by Terry Pratchett.)

The moon? Why can't it be a simple coincidence that we happen to live in the broad time window when the moon is just far enough away from the Earth -- you see, the distance increases by three centimeters per year -- to make total eclipses possible? (100 million years ago the moon was too close, so during eclipses it covered the sun entirely, corona included.) And why exactly do you believe we can't study the corona using telescopes mounted on satellites? (Hint: we are doing that.)

Considering the Antichrist... If I were religious enough to believe in the Antichrist, I would swear that this site has the answer. I kid thee not. Read the whole page, if you can.

Oh, and one more thing. I don't know if you would find Europe on a world map, but this site may help you understanding it at least.

By David MarjanoviÄ (not verified) on 02 Aug 2006 #permalink

The moon is not just the right distance away. It's distance from us changes depending on where it is in its orbit. That is why we have annular eclipses. They occur when the moon is too close and we see a ring of sun around the eclipse. As the Earth and the moon do not stop during an eclipse, if we were the perfect distance away, the solar eclipse would only last for a fraction of a second and not up to 15 minutes