I get comments

Since I've left my old blog on wordpress I've generally left it to mutate on its own, by which I mean I haven't paid much attention to the comments accumulating over there since October. From what I can tell, though, creationists stop by every now and then and have left a number of arm-waving, vitriolic statements about how I've been brainwashed by the evilutionists. Here are two of my favorites;

On Gigantoraptor;

This Is all CRAP and you know it ... This was proven to be a Fruad ! It was carved into the rock. It made the cover of Time Mag ,and they had to retract the whole story. After all this you still speak as if it were fact! Also how can one infer dinosaurs had feathers? You make the statement (known feathered dinosaurs) Could you please state a list of these (known feathered dinosaurs) You Cant NO FACTS science Only deals in FACTS!

On the inability of creationism to address basic facts from biology, history, archeology, anthropology, etc.;

Ciocal Gricenchos and "The Taking of Sevens". Your Claims about evolutionary sequences I sugest are Total Nonsense It seems to me that you and other evolutionists have preconceived ideas and some of those ideas are based on Nazi propaganda and lies. The Name Gricenchos means quite simply "The Taking of Sevens and this is precisely what the Formoraig did at the Battle of Magithe in 2025 BC when they returned to hunt and fish and descovered Partholan there with his Neolithic Coloney who settled Ireland ten years before in 2035 BC. I am also informed by creation Historian Darrell K White that after the formores were defeated by Partholan at the Battle of Magithe they became farmers but also did alot of fishing fowling and hunter gathering. This is what I believe you evolutionists call the Mesolithic. However I AM INFORMED THAT Gricenchos and his men actually built the Village of Scarra Brae in Scotland and on Darrell's chronology no earlier than between 2200 and 2000 BC. Is it not absolute arrent nonsense to call the people who have these ancient traditions liers and do you really know better than them? In conclusion I really dont think so. John HXF . [e-mail omitted]

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Ugh...It's bad enough that creationists have to abuse science and biology and history but now they have to drag pre-christian Irish Mythology into it.

And they can't even get the mythology right. It's the battle of Maigh Tuireadh (The battle of Moytura) and there was two of them. Neither of which involved the Partholans. The first battle of Moytura was the Tuatha de Danaan against the Fir Bolg and the second battle of Moytura was the Tuatha de Danaan against the Fomrorians.

I love the barely coherant tone and the random capitalizations. Oh...and the minimal punctuation really adds to the "foaming at the mouth" attitude.

Interesting however I AM INFORMED by numerous Famous Historians THAT it is Time for a Cup of Tea. In CONCLUSION I think I should go get one.

Not a bad attempt, Andrew, but you need more typos.

By Caledonian (not verified) on 30 Jan 2008 #permalink

I cannot find any actual controversy surrounding gigantoraptor, not in major news sources, minor news sources, or even conspiracy creationist sites. He is making it up whole cloth.
It makes me wonder why such fellows not only invariantly demand "personal tutoring" on every issue (YOU Tell ME : I don't know how to research myself, and I don't want to know!), but throw around words like FACT (invariably all CAPS) apparently without realizing that we will actually go look up the FACTs for ourselves, and find that said FACTs go against their position. Are they actually trying to fool people, or just themselves?

By Jason Failes (not verified) on 30 Jan 2008 #permalink

At the church I used to attend, we had a discussion one day after liturgy about evolution and Christianity because the priest there was going to be part of a debate at the university he taught at (which wasn't the one I attended). I threw my two cents in the discussion, and one woman (who turned out to have a husband who was a Baptist and a donor of Answers in Genesis, which explained this) decided that not only was I wrong (I don't care if she thought that), but that I needed to stop majoring in geology because I was going to be brainwashed by evil. (She thought the same thing about my philosophy degree, but was less adamant about that.)

Anyhow, so she started bringing Answers in Genesis brochures, flyers, etc. every week to church to give to me. I took them and was polite about the whole thing (I try to follow Mark Twain's advice about teaching pigs to sing in all sorts of arguments) and the stuff these supposedly "respectable" Young-Earth-Creationist groups put out explains these sorts of comments. Conspiracy is more psychologically appealing than fact, and there are all sorts of breathless claims of Piltdown Man-like fakes that the media is "pressured" into suppressing coverage of. Because these organizations reinforce some odd assumptions that people have against a world that is hostile to them, they latch on to these narratives of a vast, shady conspiracy.

In a way, though, I guess they're just kind of like a common man's version of the folks I know who abuse Thomas Kuhn.

I wonder if we can start a list of all the "creationist professions" there are - you've got to love in when they refer to a "creationist historian" like this gives them an edge (as opposed to the fatal blow it is to their argument). I was going to say that when they get sick, make sure they go to a creationist doctor, who will treat them with prayer, or when they get in trouble, go to a creationist lawyer, who will recommend the codes from Leviticus for their defense and/or punishment.

He is making it up whole cloth.

More likely he's thinking of Archaeoraptor and is utterly incapable of basic fact-checking.

Better still, I don't remember anything being carved into the rock for Archaeoraptor. Rather, Microraptor zhaoianus' tail was glued to Yanornis martini.

Those emails look like something Sergeant Colon wrote (or maybe Carrot) with the crazy punctuation and capitalization.

The first one looks as though the person had some sort of nervous breakdown at the end.