Our Kids Are Booze Hounds

Definitions here seem to throw off my understanding of "malt" beverages. Maybe it's an American thing, but whatever happened to germinated and kiln-dried grain (usually barley)?

my understanding is that they are called malt beverages is because they are basically flavored beer, and beer is made from malt.

From wikipedia:

The term "malt beverage" is often used by trade associations of groups of beer wholesalers (e.g. Tennessee Malt Beverage Association) to avoid any negative connotations associated with beer. Additionally, the term is applied to many other flavored beverages prepared from malted grains to which natural or artificial flavors have been added to make them taste similar to wines, fruits, colas, ciders, or other beverages. This subcategory has been called "malternative," as in Smirnoff Ice, or "maltini," as in 3SUM, which also has energy components like caffeine. Marketing of such products in the United States has increased rapidly in recent years.
In most jurisdictions, these products are regulated in a way identical to beer, which allows a retailer with a beer license to sell a seemingly wider product line. This also generally avoids the steeper taxes and stricter regulations associated with distilled spirits.
In Texas, such beverages must be referred to as "flavored beers" rather than "Malt Beverages".

Mostly, malt beverages are alcoholic soda pops marketed mostly to younger consumers who don't like the taste of alcohol.

What kind of liquor would kids be drinking these days? Vodka in something? I would guess the percents would be about the same as the 60's & 70's in Wisconsin (my background), but beer would have been higher and wine too, but liquor... I can't remember anybody who drank liquor in high school. Of course the drinking age back then was 18 so a lot of high school seniors were legal anyway.

"In Texas, such beverages must be referred to as "flavored beers" rather than "Malt Beverages"."

For once I agree with Texas. When I hear 'malt beverage' my first thought is beer (of course, I'm a homebrewer), everything else is just 'flavored beer'.

/iowan

Who cares if teenagers are having an occasional drink?

First of all, they lump all ages in together... there's a big difference between a 12-13 year old drinking (9th grade) and a 16-17 year old drinking (12th grade). They imply that 1 drink a month is "excessive drinking", then they state that 5 drinks in one night is a "binge". 5 drinks over 7-8 hours (D&D session) wouldn't even blow over *if* you were driving (we didn't).

Scaremongering is more like it.

but whatever happened to germinated and kiln-dried grain

Malt: a cereal grain that is kiln-dried after having been germinated by soaking in water.

I agree that the usage is silly. Whiskey is a malt beverage, too.

Gracula, your age ranges are a bit off. 9th graders are generally 14-15 years old, while 12 graders are generally 17-18 years old. 12-year-olds are right out.

As for the prevalence of liquor--if your objective is to get completely wasted (as it so often is with underage drinkers), shots of hard liquor, especially trashy vodka, are the quickest and cheapest way to do it.

Hmmm, six-pack and a pint. Chug and run, back in the Nebraska cornfields. Pile into the car, go to town, pick a fight or get sick. Those were the days (mid-'60s). I get a headache just thinking about it.

I get a headache just thinking about it.

- bill

.. and yet somehow we survived, and most of us aren't alcoholics.

The US attitude (I'm US born and raised) towards alcohol never cease to amaze me.

I grew up in an Italian neighborhood where the children of the Italians, who were old enough to hold a glass, had wine with dinner most every night. But I, as the offspring of a different ethnic group, was taught that alcohol of any sort, was a "bad thing".

Guess which of us had the first major hangover?

I recently talked to someone who was over in Europe and she was amazed that alcohol was so freely available: "even in vending machines!!" and that there wasn't an alcohol related crime spree going on: "I even checked the crime statistics for the city"

It's the "forbidden fruit" thing and we have the same screwed up attitude towards sex with analogous problems there too. Go figure...

.. and yet somehow we survived, and most of us aren't alcoholics.

But if you were accused in a court of law of failing to be brain damaged, would there be a reasonable doubt?

But if you were accused in a court of law of failing to be brain damaged, would there be a reasonable doubt?

Scott is still waiting for you to answer his challenge... you know, the one about backing your droppings up with anything resembling an argument or evidence.

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