Unemployment Figures: Hooray for the Second Derivative?

Unnamed "economists" appear to claiming a light at the end of the economic tunnel because the U.S. economy 'only' lost 345,000 jobs last month, and the increase in unemployment is slowing.

We have been reduced to cheering on the second derivative.

For those of you whose math is rusty, the first derivative is the change in unemployment. A negative number is actually a good thing, since it means unemployment has dropped. The second derivative measures how large the change in unemployment is.

These "green shoots" still mean that unemployment is rising, but it's not rising as quickly. I've heard of turning a frown upside down, but this is ridiculous. The broad rate of unemployment ('U6') could easiily reach twenty percent. And with a big surge in ARM recasts coming, I'm afraid this modest increase is a blip, not a good sign.

Brad DeLong is right: we need another stimulus package.

Note: Umemployment figures are not the same as job-losses. The former is reported by workers, the latter by business owners. The pattern for both, right now, is similar, however.

More like this

While everyone is worried about who is more TEH SUCK, Obama or Clinton, there's a stimulus package working its way through Capitol Hill. One of the arguments revolves around what is the best way to stimulate the economy. But that's the wrong way to pose the problem. There isn't a single economy…
I've posted several times about how confusing a slowdown in the rate at which things get worse (the second derivative) with an actual improvement (the first derivative) has led to some ridiculous claims about economic improvement. Keith Hennessey has a similar complaint: He [Obama] said this first…
Recently, I described how absurd it is to get excited over the second derivative when it comes to unemployment. A decrease in the rate at which unemployment is increasing is hardly good news (it beats the alternative, but "green shoots", this is not). Now, we're hearing similar noises about…
Every news media I looked at it is trumpeting good news - while unemployment increased in January, we're thrilled that it was only be 20,000 jobs. Because of this, the unemployment rate fell to 9.7% amid, as we learn on CNN "hope the economy will add jobs soon." What's buried in the middle of the…

Derivatives helped create this financial mess so why not celebrate 'em?

By Matt Platte (not verified) on 07 Jun 2009 #permalink

It is pointed out on TV that the jobless rate for people with Bachelors degrees is @ 4.9%, essentially full employment. Yes, education is good.

Since the early 80's, females have dominated the ranks of those receiving Bachelors; even Masters in recent years. This is particuloarly true of the classical minority groups. This suggests the total pool of educated people in the USA is majority female, or will soon be so. What are the implications of this?

By Jim Thomerson (not verified) on 07 Jun 2009 #permalink

This suggests the total pool of educated people in the USA is majority female, or will soon be so. What are the implications of this?

Get used to saying, "Yes, Ma'am."

As in, "I have a master's degree, and you have a GED; so you dig the ditch, and I will write the report. Get it?"

"Yes, Ma'am!"

And could you smile when you say it, please?

This is particuloarly true of the classical minority groups. This suggests the total pool of educated people in the USA is majority female, or will soon be so.