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Our old friend Salvador Cordova has been interviewed for the SciPhi Show, a podcast taking on philosophical issues through science fiction.

http://thesciphishow.com/?p=69

By Soren Kongstad (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink

"something".

i'm sorry, i've just come in from a fifteen-minute walk through upstate Michigan's first snow of the season, so i just couldn't not say it.

By Nomen Nescio (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink

I like that. Who's the band?

Steve_C,

It sounds very much like The Delgados ... if not, it is someone who sings a lot like Emma (from the the Delgados).

It is the Delgados. I found it on youtube.

Depressing video, but nice gams.

By Stephen Erickson (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink

I guess it's cool that the video doesn't do that stupid hackneyed thing of having the boy and girl meet up at the end.

By Stephen Erickson (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink

While you've been having fun in London, back here in Minnesota the Twin Cities have had the first snow of the season...it probably wont stick.

Killed in Iraq 10/1 to 10/9

How many more must die?

Chase A. Haag, 22, Army Corporal, Oct 01, 2006
Mario Nelson, 26, Army Sergeant, Oct 01, 2006
Denise A. Lannaman, 46, Army National Guard Sergeant, Oct 01, 2006
Justin D. Peterson, 32, Marine Captain, Oct 01, 2006
Christopher B. Cosgrove III, 23, Marine Reserve Lance Corporal, Oct 01, 2006
Aaron L. Seal, 23, Marine Reserve Corporal, Oct 01, 2006
Raymond S. Armijo, 22, Army Specialist, Oct 02, 2006
James D. Ellis, 25, Army Staff Sergeant, Oct 02, 2006
Satieon V. Greenlee, 24, Army Private 1st Class, Oct 02, 2006
Justin R. Jarrett, 21, Army Specialist, Oct 02, 2006
Joe A. Narvaez, 25, Army Staff Sergeant, Oct 02, 2006
Michael K. Oremus, 21, Army Private 1st Class, Oct 02, 2006
Joseph W. Perry, 23, Army Not reported yet, Oct 02, 2006
Kristofer C. Walker, 20, Army Specialist, Oct 02, 2006
Daniel Isshak, 25, Army Staff Sergeant, Oct 03, 2006
Jonathan Rojas, 27, Army Staff Sergeant, Oct 03, 2006
Dean Bright, 32, Army Private 1st Class, Oct 04, 2006
Timothy Burke, 24, Army Specialist, Oct 04, 2006
Christopher O. Moudry, 31, Army Staff Sergeant, Oct 04, 2006
George R. Obourn Jr., 20, Army Specialist, Oct 04, 2006
Edward M. Garvin, 19, Marine Lance Corporal, Oct 04, 2006
Benjamin S. Rosales, 20, Marine Corporal, Oct 04, 2006
Nicholas A. Arvanitis, 22, Army Corporal, Oct 06, 2006
John Edward Hale, 20, Marine Lance Corporal, Oct 06, 2006
Bradford H. Payne, 24, Marine Corporal, Oct 06, 2006
Brandon S. Asbury, 21, Army Sergeant, Oct 07, 2006
Carl W. Johnson II, 21, Army Corporal, Oct 07, 2006
Lawrence Parrish, 36, Army National Guard Sergeant, Oct 07, 2006
John Edward Wood, 37, Army National Guard Specialist, Oct 07, 2006
Shane R. Austin, 19, Army Not reported yet, Oct 08, 2006
Timothy Fulkerson, 20, Army Specialist, Oct 08, 2006
Stephen F. Johnson, 20, Marine Lance Corporal, Oct 08, 2006
Jeremy Scott Sandvick Monroe, 20, Marine Lance Corporal, Oct 08, 2006
Phillip B. Williams, 21, Army Private 1st Class, Oct 09, 2006
Julian M. Arechaga, 23, Marine Sergeant, Oct 09, 2006
Jon Eric Bowman, 21, Marine Lance Corporal, Oct 09, 2006
Shelby J. Feniello, 25, Marine Private 1st Class, Oct 09, 2006

http://www.notinourname.net/what_you_can_do.html

Take the pledge, write your Representative or Senator.

Do something, for God's sake

"We believe that as people living
in the United States it is our
responsibility to resist the injustices
done by our government,
in our names

Not in our name
will you wage endless war
there can be no more deaths
no more transfusions
of blood for oil

Not in our name
will you invade countries
bomb civilians, kill more children
letting history take its course
over the graves of the nameless

Not in our name
will you erode the very freedoms
you have claimed to fight for

Not by our hands
will we supply weapons and funding
for the annihilation of families
on foreign soil

Not by our mouths
will we let fear silence us

Not by our hearts
will we allow whole peoples
or countries to be deemed evil

Not by our will
and Not in our name

We pledge resistance

We pledge alliance with those
who have come under attack
for voicing opposition to the war
or for their religion or ethnicity

We pledge to make common cause
with the people of the world
to bring about justice,
freedom and peace

Another world is possible
and we pledge to make it real."

I just received an e-mail newsletter from the good folks at GOPUSA. It says the Republicans will retain both houses of Congress. It's also compiled by people who don't know the difference between a Senator and a Representative(!?), so I think their predictions are as questionable as their knowledge.

PZ, take a look at the "Panda Problems" thread of your class website (We are Devo). There is some odd activity there (I am being notified by email - as I posted there I am monitoring new posts).

- Jon

Charlie asked how many more people must die?

Well, probably several billion from direct and collateral effects, if all the WMDS that the scientists of the world have built.

Sure, some fundies may use the wmds. So do a lot a atheists.

But it the sciencetits hadn't built them, nobody could use them.

Fundies only IMAGINE the END of the WORLD, sciencetists have made it REAL.

Actually, Charlie, many more than that have died in Iraq in that ten-day period.

(Or do the Iraqis not count? They'd probably not have been dying if the invasion hadn't happened... admittedly, the civil war would probably have happened after Hussein copped it or was overthrown, but it probably wouldn't be underway *now*.)

But it the sciencetits hadn't built them, nobody could use them.

And if scientists didn't invent the vaccine, lots more children would be dying of measles. Biology can lead to many cures as well as horrors.

There are peaceful applications for just about everything. Hopefully, careful use of nuclear power can take a bigger bite out of our fossil fuel use.

The problem isn't science, it's the cost of knowledge. If we want benefits, we have to take sometimes unknown risks.

Sure, some fundies may use the wmds. So do a lot a atheists.

But it the sciencetits hadn't built them, nobody could use them.

Fundies only IMAGINE the END of the WORLD, sciencetists have made it REAL.

Posted by: Ricardo | October 12, 2006 06:06 PM

[Sigh]

"We have already compared the benefits of theology and science. When the theologian governed the world, it was covered with huts and hovels for the many, palaces and cathedrals for the few. To nearly all the children of men, reading and writing were unknown arts. The poor were clad in rags and skins -- they devoured crusts, and gnawed bones. The day of Science dawned, and the luxuries of a century ago are the necessities of to-day. Men in the middle ranks of life have more of the conveniences and elegancies than the princes and kings of the theological times. But above and over all this, is the development of mind. There is more of value in the brain of an average man of to-day -- of a master-mechanic, of a chemist, of a naturalist, of an inventor, than there was in the brain of the world four hundred years ago."

--Robert Ingersoll, "God in the Constitution"

By False Prophet (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink

While scientific research has given mankind many benefits, it can be difficult to get the scientific establishment to support good causes, such as the eradication of cats. As a dog, I find this disappointing.

The new Chief of the Defence staff here has just said that the British troops should leave Iraq as soon as possible, because they are making the security situation worse.

This is Britains' most senior serving officer, and he is still in post and on duty!

By G. Tingey (not verified) on 12 Oct 2006 #permalink