The basic incompetence of the Expelled producers continues. This morning I received an e-mail telling me that the scheduled screening (7pm on April 3rd) as been re-scheduled for 6pm on that date. Where the incompetence of these boyos comes in is that they cc’ed a bunch of people on the message and I thus have contact information for attendees - folks with e-mails like "boughtbythecross," "homeschoolma," and "covenant-dad."
As it happens I can’t attend the showing ... wont be missing much.
... folks with e-mails like "boughtbythecross," "homeschoolma," and "covenant-dad."
Gosh, that sure looks like a random collection of people, huh?
It says (in part), "we may provide your personally identifiable information with third parties that we use for our own business purposes, such as to process your order or request for information, or to provide services for us."
So, what services are you providing to the Expelled people? I think you should send a billing statement along.
Or alternately, given that everyone else on the CC list saw your e-mail address, do you have any legal recourse for the breach of policy? Probably not, but it's fun to dream.
How brain dead do you have to be to NOT know what BCC means for email?? Oh wait, dont tell me, they think it means "Before Christ Came"...?
PaulR, thanks, I've just snorted my brandy out of my nose.
Arg You WILL be missing something-- If theyve left the 'totally new and completely original' animation in.
Now Im going to have to email email@example.com for insider info.
Wow, that list and a little basic From: Address spoofing could cause all sorts of mayhem ("Dear Expelled ticket-holder, please note that the screening of the film has been moved to the following location: Cheaters Gentlemen's Club, 418 Main St..."). But that would be wrong.
That reminds me. I need to apply for citizenship somewhere else.
The stupid oxide! It stinks!
Stupid carries the seed of its own destruction, or something.
So did they say anything in the email about whether or not Mathis was going to be there?
It seems to me that a lot of people should have PeeZed "crash" there in box on April 1st. He is due for another "uninvited" event.
they are the experts on molecular machines and Hitler but the can't use a mailing list or BCC...LOL
Watch it, though! They did a bait and switch on Troy Britain zt the Biola showing and did not show the film at their "showing," for which he paid $10 -- just the promo clips and some speakers:
The Movie and the event", "backstage film pass", sounds like you might actually see the movie right? Wrong! Instead all you get for your ten clams and your forty minute drive (one way) is essentially a commercial for the movie with a few clips and a lot of ID babble from Stephen C. Meyer, Ben (Mad Dog) Stein, and three or four also spokes.
I meant to include a link to Troy Britain's reaction. He's does try to engage them in dialogue.
John, if you sent the other e-mail recipients a review of the movie you'd be providing a service, especially if you threw in a few Web links to research about the movie's thesis, the nature of science, and the preogress of evolutionary theory since Darwin. Then you could send a bill for 3rd-party services, say for "follou-wp and additional publicity."
I got an email one time from someone at hisbloodinme; maybe they did it on purpose so the Xians can all email each other and get together...can't be?
Yes, I think a "reply to all" telling them you've decided not to come, and spelling out the reasons why, may be called for here.
It's strange how Christian their email addresses sound, since we all know ID is strictly science and completely unrelated to religion.
I like Divalent's idea... but Tulse's is pretty attractive too. Can you do both?
Teach The Controversy?
Send them all a link to expelledexposed.com =)
John - whence this hate/despising of anything that is Christian (religious) etc?? Many (most?) of your blogs are poking fun at Christians, creationists, Christian journals etc.
Aren't there better things for an intelligent guy like you to do?? After all - it is clear that you believe that all these people are idiots who have no idea what they are talking about etc...Then why the effort and hate(?) to always refer to them etc.?
Did you have a bad experience with religion? Were your parents Christian fundamentalists who forced you to go to church? Whence the obsession with these people?
I am curious.
Don't you have something better to do?
I guess not (?).
I haven't registered much (any) hate here, or indeed in any science blogs, - but contempt, ridicule, and annoyance, - yes, definitely!
But aren't the GFers bringing it upon themselves, aren't their ridiculous claims, intolerance, and superstition the real reason for the retribution from all that have more rational world-views?
For nearly 2000 years christianity has made life a misery for millions, it has promoted hatred, misogyny, and injustice, - so to get rid of the scourge more than polite rebuffs are needed.
It is not as if the counter-attacks on religion takes all that much time, because the GFers themselves provide most of the material to support the atheist arguments.
GFer: G for god, and Fer for the vernacular of 'copulator'.
We all had a bad experience with religion when we found out what lies and general dishonesty the theists are capable of. But that's to be expected and it's not really the problem. I don't think any of us care if they lie to themselves. It's when they try to force their lies on others, particularly children, that bothers a good many of us.
CHRIS - Let us turn the tables, shall we?
Aren't there better things for an intelligent guy like you to do (than to troll blogs with different views than yours)?? After all - it is clear that you believe that all these people are idiots who have no idea what they are talking about etc...Then why the effort and hate(?) to refer to them etc.?
Did you have a bad experience with non-theists? Were your parents Christian fundamentalists who forced you to go to church? Whence the obsession with these people?
I am curious.
Don't you have something better to do?
I guess not (?).
If John hasn't trolled your hallowed blogs, than you should show him the same respect. Your veiled politeness is dishonest.
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I guess you did have a bad experience with religion - as it is clear from most of your answers. The following quote is illustrative:
"We all had a bad experience with religion when we found out what lies and general dishonesty the theists are capable of..."
Are you suggesting that atheists did not lie (do not lie)and are not capable of lies. I hope you are kidding (trust me - I was raised in communist Romania where most things were lies in the papers).
As far as my politeness being dishonest (#22) - it is simply not true. I try to answer everybody with "gentleness and respect" (1 Peter 3:16). I apologize if many times I do not succeed.
I still think that it is a waste of time to try to combat people who are deluded (I assume that you believe that these people are in the same category of those who believe that the earth is flat-?), and a God who does not exist.