The video runs for about 2.5 hours, so you might want to grab a glass of water or a cup of coffee before you launch it.
The video did not take the full 2.5 hours for me because I could not understand one speaker (presenter they called him), the first, another I could only partially understand.
I saw your lion, cat, similar system, and happy meal responses and noted your position of pre-existing ethics determined by a society or moral community. So far as I could tell you did not fully agree with anybody, which is probably the way it should be.
Great discussion. I hoped for some strong arguments for animal-based research. Unfortunately, the strongest were that of Robert C. Jones (what is not surprising since they're those of P. Singer).
So, in my opinion, experimenting on animals is maybe inevitable but still unethical and we have to face it.
Keep up the great work. We all hope for the truth about animal experimentation at UCLA and everywhere else to be exposed. Some of us make great sacrifices and truely we are making a differance.