"This is the story of a battle between faith and knowledge..."
The first in a series from the BBC
- Log in to post comments
More like this
I couldn't make the speech by Ken Miller, the inaugural speech in KU's series on "Difficult Dialogues." Fortunately, the audio is out there so I can catch up on the controversy.
The controversy seems to center mostly on the section of his talk described like this by the Journal World:
Miller said…
Internet connectivity between Europe, the Middle East and Asia is reportedly seriously affected by a series of cable cut.
Jonathan Wright - director of wholesale products at Interoute which manages part of the optical fibre network - told the BBC that the effects of the break would be felt for…
tags: religion, violence, genocide, fundamentalism, MtlRedAtheist, streaming video
This is the second in a series of videos that address some of the violent, absurd and atrocious Bible stories being taught to children in Sunday School around the world today. This video discusses the Sunday School…
This post from October 21, 2004 laments the lack of spatial and temporal context for Lakoff's theory of political ideology.
As I have complained before, Lakoff's theory leaves me wanting for a spatial and a temporal context. In other words, I believe that current analysis will remain untested…
Does BBC have video of this available? The Horizon programme's site has links:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizom/war.shtml
(See Bill Dembski, ready to shoot dice . . .)
I watched the whole series. It's pretty good, but I have my gripes with it. Number one being the fact that their attempt to deal with Dembskian "probability" nonsense misses the mark big time. It's true that probabilities calculated after the fact are usually useless, but they did nothing in the way of explaining the difference between "random" and "stochastic" processes, which is the much more damning flaw in the argument. They also give way too much airtime to the IDers, and often give way too favorable an impression of them. One of the boats they missed was the fact that none of their arguments are really original, but are just the same recycled creationist nonsense. "Irreducible complexity" is a repackaged watchmaker argument, etc.
Tyler said:
"... did nothing in the way of explaining the difference between "random" and "stochastic" processes"
I find this a hard comment to follow. You seem to be using the term "random" in some particular way I'm unaware of.
I doubt you are asserting that stochastic processes are in some sense nonrandom, but every time I reread it, I find it hard to figure out what else you might mean by that.
efrique,
I mean the difference between something that can be characterized as "non-deterministic" versus something that can be characterized as purely random. Evolution has a strong selection compenent, making it nonrandom, but it's not purely deterministic.
Or in other words, I mean "random" as in what most people intuitively associate with the term, which in probability lingo would roughly equate to "uniform-distributed outcomes".
I originally considered the possibility that you might have been using "random" to be uniformly distributed, but I couldn't figure out how that could possibly apply in the context.
If random means uniform, what are we suggesting is uniformly distributed in evolution (and over what values)?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I find myself no more enlightened.
I originally considered the possibility that you might have been using "random" to be uniformly distributed, but I couldn't figure out how that could possibly apply in the context.
If random is taken to mean uniform, what exactly is it that would be supposedly uniformly distributed in evolution (and over what values)?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I find myself no more enlightened.
"Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I find myself no more enlightened."
Well, are you familiar with Dembski's "CSI" arguments?