A lecture, by Dr. Don Bierle of FaithSearch International.... Sponsored by Campus Crusade for Christ at UW-Superior. Dr. Bierle is a "former skeptic" and everything.
Kathryn Ohman Theater, McCaskill Hall
Superior, WI 54880
10/04/2009 Â· 07:00 PM - 09:00 PM Â· (715) 394-8320
What's he going to do? Stand up there with a blank stare and empty hands?
Hey Greg, thanks for making me vomit in my mouth. 'preciate it
If I didn't have a wedding to go to, I'd ask you to accompany me to the talk, Lorax!
There is a biologist at UW-Superior who actually supports ID http://www2.uwsuper.edu/rseelke/
That biologist's web page looks like it was designed by a 10 year old.
"Expelled" is a major documentary? That's news to me. I thought it was a propaganda film made for the sole intention of obfuscating any facts associated with evolution.
Oh I see, Im good enough to invite to the psychobabble talk, but not good enough to escort you to a wedding. I get it, I embarrass you, you're just like all the others.....
...how promising, seems like it may be possible to have cake and eat it too.
Place your bets, folks! What arguments will Dr Bierle present?
Currently, I've got Cosmological Fine Tuning at 4:1, Mischaracterization of Evolution at 3:1, Irreducible Complexity at 3:2, Lack of Transitional Fossils at 1:3, Something New and Original at 15:1, and Genuine Scientific Evidence at 32767:1.
Your reading it wrong. The scientific case is simply an antique box filled with test tubes, beakers, and other sciencey stuff. It's being auctioned off, with all the proceeds going into researching how different fruits fit in the human hand.
Snoof, your odds need adjusting
1) their arguments evolve, they're never "new and original"--that should be â:1; remember the "cdesign proponentsists" transitional form?
2) this guy seems like a complexity guy, teaching immunology and all. I'm going to go with "compliment cascade is too complex"--but I would feel bad with 3:2 odds; that should be 30:1 or higher.
While it is is easy to dismiss IDiots, it is also dangerous to underestimate their appeal. A few years ago, when I was teaching a course at UMN-Duluth, I offered extra credit to students if they attended a presentation on the "evidence" for ID and wrote a summary of it. Despite having spent the better part of a semester discussing evolution, and despite the fact that I lectured specifically on the fallacies of ID, I still had some students write about how convincing the evidence for ID was. Rather depressing...
Why are Liars for Jeezus always:
1. a former skeptic
2. a former godless fornicator
3. a former gambler
4. a former drunkard
Why don't any of them claim to have simply been born an ignorant Liar for Jeezus?
Doyle: yes, that is depressing. Expected, but depressing.
Madsci: It seems that being one of us is excellent for cred-building.
Why are Liars for Jeezus always [...]a former...
because you have to be Saved of course! The more heinous your previous situation, the better, and it doesn't get any more heinous (to a Xian) than atheism!
Look! Jeebus saved even this terrible sinner from his apostacy! Behold the Power_of_the_Lord_Jeebusâ¢
A male friend of mine believes in Intelligent Design. He's otherwise quite boyfriend worthy, but I can't bring myself to date an ID believer :(