This guy's obviously been reading The Intersection.
Seriously tho, great video and I hope a lot of people watch the whole thing. It deconstructs the denialist arguments one at a time in an intelligent way for those of us that aren't in the field and hear a lot of conflicting info.
My first thoughts were "Wow... this guy reminds me of Ze Frank. Then I saw the "League of Awesomeness" T-Shirt :) Good to know Ze's influence is still being felt. Seriously, great video, and a wonderful way of telling people about the problem/solution without confusing them with the science. Thanks for posting!
Get real. Organic farming already went out prior 2007. What was the result? More pesticides were developed, toxics products(toys, cookewares, plastics used everyday and everywhere) were developed and put on the market. Chemicals are used in every room to smell good or to be clean. Carpeting used almost in every house or office. Even hospitals used terrible toxic chemicals. Building highways, buying 4x4, building big house, eating junk food, ...All are part of the extensive problem. Until govt. is 'running after the money' and 'encouraging profit's makers', decision will not take place. No one has stop the irak's war even after knowing the inspectors' s results. Guess obvious like smoking is being seen however the problem is more, more complex.
For some people the weight of scientific evidence means nothing, so somewhat bizarre logical constructs are the only way to go. If it helps anyone go over to the side of sense, then I'm all for it.
A patronizing demeanor is rarely persuasive, and is not a good strategy for winning votes. Remember that first Gore-Bush debate in 2000?
You folks are underestimating the common sense of the American electorate. While many of you enjoy feeling superior to your fellow citizens, they are more than capable of smelling out a scam.
William F. Buckley famously said that he would rather be governed by the first 1000 names in the Boston phonebook than the members of the Harvard faculty, and Orwell commented that there are some ideas so dumb that only an intellectual could believe them. Imposing massive government controls over the economy in a pointless attempt to stave off a science fiction fantasy is one such idea.
There is one point I never see addressed that just screams out to me:
Which is more certain / reliable...
Climate science models & projections, or
Macro-Economic models & projections
The denialists and right-wingers generally always predict some economic catastrophe if real steps to curb global climate change are taken, while doubting/minimizing/deriding the claims of catastrophic consequences to doing nothing predicted by climatologists. Do they have no irony meters?
I believe that this will ultimately be the tipping point in the argument for actually taking actions... Attack the 'do nothing side' by pointing out just how flimsy their predictions of economic doom and gloom are compared with relative certainty of climate science (calling macro-economic predictions fuzzy is being very generous, and pretty much anyone can be convinced of that fact with well known historical predictions which were way off). We are starting to see this already in a form, as advocates point to the potential economic benefits of switching away from carbon intensive technologies.
travc -- It is hardly a matter of models & projections notice that that increased demand for ethanol has led to a doubling of corn prices, leading to substantial inflation throughout the food chain. Or that increasing the cost of doing business will have the result of -- how do I put this? -- increasing the cost of doing business. Take a look at that Orwell quote above, and then look in a mirror.
Wondermind42 has been working really hard on his videos and has done a great job on improving them via viewer feedback. Thanks for posting him Sheril, he deserves more attention.
This guy's obviously been reading The Intersection.
Seriously tho, great video and I hope a lot of people watch the whole thing. It deconstructs the denialist arguments one at a time in an intelligent way for those of us that aren't in the field and hear a lot of conflicting info.
My first thoughts were "Wow... this guy reminds me of Ze Frank. Then I saw the "League of Awesomeness" T-Shirt :) Good to know Ze's influence is still being felt. Seriously, great video, and a wonderful way of telling people about the problem/solution without confusing them with the science. Thanks for posting!
BRAVO! Leave it to a science teacher to nail the core of the issue and clarify the risk assessment choices. Thanks, Sheril.
Get real. Organic farming already went out prior 2007. What was the result? More pesticides were developed, toxics products(toys, cookewares, plastics used everyday and everywhere) were developed and put on the market. Chemicals are used in every room to smell good or to be clean. Carpeting used almost in every house or office. Even hospitals used terrible toxic chemicals. Building highways, buying 4x4, building big house, eating junk food, ...All are part of the extensive problem. Until govt. is 'running after the money' and 'encouraging profit's makers', decision will not take place. No one has stop the irak's war even after knowing the inspectors' s results. Guess obvious like smoking is being seen however the problem is more, more complex.
Do people really like to be talked down to like 7th graders?
Do people really like to be talked down to like 7th graders?
I'm not sure they like it but some people need to be talked to that way.
For some people the weight of scientific evidence means nothing, so somewhat bizarre logical constructs are the only way to go. If it helps anyone go over to the side of sense, then I'm all for it.
7th grade reading comprehension was the US national average aimed for by public speakers, back in 1970. Think it's gotten better?
A patronizing demeanor is rarely persuasive, and is not a good strategy for winning votes. Remember that first Gore-Bush debate in 2000?
You folks are underestimating the common sense of the American electorate. While many of you enjoy feeling superior to your fellow citizens, they are more than capable of smelling out a scam.
William F. Buckley famously said that he would rather be governed by the first 1000 names in the Boston phonebook than the members of the Harvard faculty, and Orwell commented that there are some ideas so dumb that only an intellectual could believe them. Imposing massive government controls over the economy in a pointless attempt to stave off a science fiction fantasy is one such idea.
There is one point I never see addressed that just screams out to me:
Which is more certain / reliable...
Climate science models & projections, or
Macro-Economic models & projections
The denialists and right-wingers generally always predict some economic catastrophe if real steps to curb global climate change are taken, while doubting/minimizing/deriding the claims of catastrophic consequences to doing nothing predicted by climatologists. Do they have no irony meters?
I believe that this will ultimately be the tipping point in the argument for actually taking actions... Attack the 'do nothing side' by pointing out just how flimsy their predictions of economic doom and gloom are compared with relative certainty of climate science (calling macro-economic predictions fuzzy is being very generous, and pretty much anyone can be convinced of that fact with well known historical predictions which were way off). We are starting to see this already in a form, as advocates point to the potential economic benefits of switching away from carbon intensive technologies.
travc -- It is hardly a matter of models & projections notice that that increased demand for ethanol has led to a doubling of corn prices, leading to substantial inflation throughout the food chain. Or that increasing the cost of doing business will have the result of -- how do I put this? -- increasing the cost of doing business. Take a look at that Orwell quote above, and then look in a mirror.
Wondermind42 has been working really hard on his videos and has done a great job on improving them via viewer feedback. Thanks for posting him Sheril, he deserves more attention.