He's still complaining. Maloney is the naturopath in Maine who makes inflated claims about the efficacy of his magic drugs, and who still pops by here and now then to protest feebly, and he's still making stuff up elsewhere. It also turns out that he has a page warning the world about me and you readers.
The infamous PZ Myers asked those who visit his blog to repeat this message all over the internet. He chose me because of false accusations from a local freshman, who blamed me for getting his insipid little clone blog kicked off the internet. Since Myers runs a thing called the endless thread, the majority of his popularity is manufactured by random postings. But multiple clone sites attach themselves to his and we have a flotilla of clones masquerading as independent thinkers.
When PZ Myers was questioned, he eventually retracted his original accusations, but his clone sites did not. I have spent considerable time answering questions at both PZ Myers site and Dr. Novella's sister site. Dr. Novella acts as the "brain trust" and "spanks" anyone who questions PZ Myers.
Whoa. You can manufacture popularity with random postings? Why hasn't everyone leapt upon this tactic? He also seems to like the terms "clone blog" and "clone site" to refer to anyone on the web who has noticed that Christopher Maloney is a quack.
By the way, I did not retract anything I said about him: he is a quack. Steve Novella is not my servant; I'm sure he'd laugh at the idea that he supports me unquestioningly. Novella dropped the evidence bomb on Maloney, nothing more.
Maloney has also given the Pharyngula gang an entry in his main menu. Are you flattered? He claims there that I have moderated him out of existence. He has not been banned in any way, however; his evidence is that he includes a copy of a comment that did not get posted. It has five links in it. Hmmm…I guess I must have targeted that one for deletion because it was so persuasive. The fact that we have filtering software that screens comments for excessive links is irrelevant.
Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to be kind and reply by boosting Maloney's reputation on Google as a quack a little more.
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This is so much fun.
What's your most-trusted source for news?
http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/the-editors-desk/the-editors-desk…
This is from my local paper. Warning: some of the comments will make you want to bang your head on the desk.
I thought the Endless Thread contained actual interesting discussions of the reality-based universe. I guess I've been wrong...
(Hey, Moveable Type does work!)
My favorite part of the endless thread was when he said I was the one obsessed with guys with beards.
Qwack, Qvack, Quack. Still the being an utter idjit I see. His links are usually worthless and inane. Like his link to the use of vitamin D in pregnant women when a male woomeister ODed on some. It's good the filter got them. Otherwise, one of us might have clicked on it and found a very bad case of the stoopid woo at the other end.
I'm confused as to why he thinks all your readers are copycats and non-scientists. I also don't understand his tone of disdain at atheists who are also "quackbusters", as though skepticism is not a term he's ever heard. Although I must say quackbusters is a hilarious word.
Oh, his site is so full of gold to laugh at. Here's a good one"
Not *gasp* swearing!
Poor lonely little guy. It's sad when people don't understand how the internet works. I love how he actually links to your page and explains what the other side of the argument is because he doesn't mind debate on equal footing. Oh wait.
Some All of his post on the Endless Thread have been weird. There was one in which he called a bunch of 18 year old English majors who were attacking him, an "older, attractive bearded" man.
Especially if you ordered him to, eh PZ? I'm on to you...
Does occasionally linking to Pharygula mean that Halfway There is a "clone site"? I need to know! PZ, please tell me if I'm an independent thinker or not. Please! I won't rest easy until I know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3x3xitCbCM&feature=player_embedded#!
A snuff film of the worst kind...ganging up on a defenseless guy and ripping him to shreds. I don't know if PZ can take it but it's better for me to deliver the news than to rely on someone secondhand.
Oh, oh. I misspelled "Pharyngula." (Now I'm in for it.)
Why would we bother with 'clone' blogs? Clearly, according to homeopathic principles, the fewer sites one has out there on the internet, the more persuasive they'll be.
It is interesting that most quack... homeopaths and else, claim that the modern medicine as the XVIII century medicne...
as if Koch, Pasrtur, Lister, and everyone that put science in Medicien had existed.
Certainly.. at the late XVIII century.. No medicine (homeopathy).. was better trearment that any othere treathment...
But when Science enter into medicine and treatments and medicines were began to be tested, followinf the example of Pasteur...everything changed.
By the late XIX only seven medicines were left... everything else had been tested and discarded.
Unfortunatelly a lot of Medical Doctor seem no to be aware of this... and call themselves "alopatic"... unaware of the evolution of their own profession.
@#7
I'm that "18 year old freshman". Standard quack practice: don't mention your foes by name.
Oh, and forget that I'm 25 this month and a senior.
@Brownian, OM
Only if you shake the internet really hard.
Quackbuster has a nice ring to it. I like it. Count me in as a quackbuster.
Now here's a googlebomb.
Quack.
Flotilla? Ocean-going clones?
So, according to Maloney quack, we are PZ's Clone Army. I wonder when he is planning to issue Order 66...
See Maloney, among the grown-ups there is this strange custom of distinguishing between fiction and reality. Star Wars = fiction, NASA = reality. Equally, medical science = efficacious treatment, naturopath magic potions = woo.
Oooh, what a great description of the militant atheist fleet! I'll be happy to aim my vessel's water canon toward the quacking quack and fire at the drop of a tentacle by the Squidly Overlord. Hmm, what does a gargling quack sound like?
I thought you were talking about Christopher Meloni. Oops.
What is the deal with 'independent thinkers' anyway? Why is it certain people so need to label themselves or others as 'independent thinkers' or 'clones'? If you're an independent thinker, it's pretty obvious to most people: you'll have no problem synthesizing novel responses to novel questions.
It's kinda like telling people you're a top sprinter or champion mixed martial artist. It'll be apparent when you step on the track or into the ring.
To be fair, he's probably unaware of the anti-spam filter. I know I and any number of other commenters have been caught out by it. Of course, since we're not naturopaths, we did a little investigation ("Hey, what happened to my comment with all the links? It said it was being held up in moderation. Does this blog have a spam filter or something?") rather than run off screaming persecution by the black helicopters of Big Pharma.
Well, he's got the same aversion to evidence that Maloney has. No matter how many times Cragen or Benson tell him to back off a case because "he's too close to it", he invariably smacks up a suspect and jeopardises the conviction.
Nooooooooo, now he'll be back infesting the endless thread. Quackass, the non-doctor afraid of blood. Ugh.
You did no such thing, Quackass. You kept intruding with long screeds insisting what you do is actual medicine, claiming you've provided evidence when you haven't. You're a quack, a fraud and a liar.
It's no coincidence that "Maloney" rhymes with "baloney". Clearly, this is evidence for ID [Idiot Design].
Yeah, but does he walk like a duck?
Glen D
http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p
I just hope Christopher Meloni* isn't as stupid as Christopher Maloney.
*A lonly boy's gotta fantasize about someone!
Quack quack quack indeed. St Martins day can't come soon enough. Why?
On St Martins day in Sweden you eat quacks. Well, ducks, but I guess they found out somewhere along the line that actual quacks wasn't all that healthy. The sentiment remains though. (At least to me.)
Poor Maloney is just jealous.
We all know that the BChiroA is the quack that launched a thousand blogs.
On second thought: DAMN! His on to us! I knew referring to PZ as our enlightened ententacled overmind was risky...
Well, I guess the gig is up. Let's get this guy and be done with it. Pharyngulites! Cephalopod formation: CHARGE...
But be careful, because if you don't hit the hold button first, when you shake it it will shuffle to the next blog on your playlist.
@ 29: We don't charge so well when we're not aiming for a poll. But we sure do produce a lot of ink.
@ 31: It will do, hell probably suffocate from reasonpoisoning.
Quack is such a cruel word. I prefer to use the phrase rapacious purveyor of simulated medicine. Polysyllabic words have a certain air of grandeur that I find to be enchanting. Words like homeopath or spiritualist just scream credibility.
Regarding the moderated comment, if it was merely held for moderation by the spam filter, wouldn't it have eventually been approved? There's obviously no reason to reject it.
PeeZed doesn't as a rule salvage anything from the spamfilter. The infestation is simply too high.
Maloney isn't the first person to get paranoid after their comment get held up in moderation for having too many links. Hell, even some of the regulars here forget sometimes.
Perhaps there should be a reminder below the comment box, where the HTML commands are.
I would have approved it if I'd seen it (well, "approved" is too strong a word: I would have allowed it to be posted.) Often the spam trap is so clogged with garbage, though, that I can't easily find the reasonable stuff in all the mess.
Some time ago, on the Endless Thread™, we ran an experiment to see how many links tripped the spam trap. The number actually varied (SB technology at its finest) but generally three links were allowed but four or more failed.
I always suspected Novella was your bitch. Now I know!
I am sad to say I was a Maine resident when naturopaths were given licenser in Maine. Like most people I did not realize what they were. They have their NDs and I thought they had some real training in the use of herbs. It was only after finding out what they really are over at Quackwatch that I realized that MD stands for Doctor of Nonsense.
It really pisses me off that these deluded incompetents want to be recognized as primary care practitioners. With the impending shortages in primary care real docs, some misguided legislators might actually let this happen. Thank you PZ and your "clones" for raising the awareness level.
What is the Endless Thread?
(Im new to the blog.)
tas121790:
A thread which never ends:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/episode_liii_well_now_whats_…
Short version: a kook showed up on a random thread and started discussing creationist geology pseudoscience. Pharyngulites would trash his ideas in an insightful and entertaining fashion. Kook would occasionally put aside pseudoscience and discuss disturbing aspects of his life. One time he causally mentioned being attracted to a 10 year while in his 20's and falling in love with a 16 year old in his 40's. Kook promptly banned. Since then the discussion has continued, but is nowadays mostly focused on bacon, bad music videos and how a British law student will vote.
You can join in here:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/episode_liii_well_now_whats_…
Mmmmmmmmmm. Chris Meloni.
*faints*
Spanking is good. Everybody, all together now, spanking is good. Does anyone have fur lined handcuffs?
Rowww-fuccking-owwrrrr. Srsly.
At the beginning of his visits here Non-Doctor Chris Quack insisted PZ was urging us to kill him, rape his dog, set fire to his sofa, and otherwise act in various unpleasant ways towards him. He got rather miffed when we told him he wasn't significant enough for any of that stuff to happen. We only rape obnoxious assholes' dogs and he just didn't make the cut.
Note to Kw*k and other refugees at Mooney's blog, we don't actually rape dogs and the burning sofa was a mistake. Honest. Some bacon grease got spilled and someone (I will not embarrass Rev BDC by mentioning any names) dumped the burning patchouli on it thinking it would make a pleasing stench.
Well he's all mine. Every muscular inch of him. ;^)
Oh, it would make a pleasing stench, if that meant I'd never, ever, ever, have to smell that vile musk again. Why is it that Generic Happy Girl from central casting thinks that she must wear the whole bottle of it in public?
Josh, OSG:
A pox on everyone who overdoses the scent, especially when it's vile, like patchouli. Or musk.
Hands off, ho. You don't get to have him, especially after your remarks about "older" (read: 30 or over) men. Uh-uh, not tonight, B.
Thank you, Caine. The only people who should be able to smell your scent (be it designer fragrance or "natural") are those you're dancing with. Not every damned person in the dairy aisle at the Piggly Wiggly.
Maloney wrote:
"Manufactured popularity?" No, skeptics rely on the net weight of the science involved. Clearly, Maloney has presented his studies on alternative medicine and been told exactly why and where they failed. He then wants studies showing what?
I doubt very much that he lost any respect for the skeptic societies. People who promote alt medicine already assume that mainstream scientists are either Big Pharma shills, or simply afraid of frightening implications of alternative medicine (usually, that it disproves the materialistic reductionist world view.) They live in an atmosphere of conspiracies, where they see themselves as the Brave Maverick Doctor who actually cares about, and listens to, his patients, all while working with Nature. He had no prior respect for the skeptic societies.
You mean the thing about not understanding the pop-culture references of non-nerdy older gay men? Well if you were nerdy. . .
*runs
1. You're still not getting a spanking.
2. Non-nerdy? Who you callin' non-nerdy? I have the whole DVD set of Star Trek the. . . (blinks, looks around, scurries away)
Josh, OSG:
Word. I was at the bookstore not long ago, and you enter into a closed foyer. As I walked in, a woman was walking out and I started to cough and choke from the sheer amount of whatever the hell she was doused in. The stuff followed me around for a while too. There's a large segment of society that needs Scent 101 lessons.
We are the chorus and we agree. We agree, we agree, we agree.
Especially patchouli.
I found out that I'm allergic to patchouli at an SCA "What Smelled Good In Period" class. The lecturer passed around samples of various things. The patchouli, which I had never knowingly met before, was in a ziplock baggie. I unzipped it, stuck my nose over it, and sucked in a deep breath. My eyes instantly swelled shut, my sinuses went berserk, I left in great haste.
Damned stuff sticks to my hair, too, at the slightest excuse.
Christopher Maloney is a QUACK!
Cicely:
Ugh, you have my sympathies. I'm surprised I didn't OD on the stuff in the '70s. It was *everywhere* - perfumes, oil, incense. Ick, blecch, horrible stuff. Just about every other hippie was dosed in the stuff. My husband likes it and was informed over 30 years ago that if I ever smelt the stuff in the house or on him, he was welcome to leave. Permanently.
The Quacktard is pathetic, but let's not forget that he's also dangerous.
He's an anti-vax kook who still pretends that vaccines cause autism. He also thinks that dangerous chelation therapy might be indicated for mercury poisoning from tooth fillings.
He lies and denies this, but it's all still there on his site. If he had the time to put up a new page moaning about PZ, Steve Novella and everyone else he had the time to take down the carefully crafted lies about vaccines that he says he doesn't believe himself.
He showed up here thinking he could school Pharyngulites on everything from the flu to breast cancer, got called out, then shat on the board and fluttered off to claim victory. Fucking quack.
Funny that he claims you're so popular due to the endless thread.
Personally i hardly read it as it goes too fast anyway, let alone post in it (except that one time with the friend who was praying for his atheist aquainteses (sp?) of which i'm one and i needed advice how to handle this)
I'm so glad it's patchouli that got the stinky hippy reputation, and not the sandalwood I came to love in my 1970s sorta-kinda-hippy-lite-ish youth.
No, that requires Christopher Maloney, Quack, have the brains of a duck. That is insulting to all ducks everywhere, including the pickled ones in the biology lab, Daffy, and Donald.
Christopher Maloney, Quack, might be as intelligent as the paper on which Donald is drawCRASH!n—oops, excuse me, got to run, an outraged Ent just came through the wall…
Awww, Gyeong and Josh, I love it when you two flirt. It's so cute. :-P
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In other news: Christopher Maloney is STILL A FUCKING QUACK. And a liar. And a dangerous loon.
(Just to bump up his negative Google-hits. Hopefully some patients thinking of seeking advice from him will google his name, and decide to go to a real doctor instead.)
Sandalwood makes woodwork and -turning even more pleasant than usual! And nothing 'hippie' about that.
I think what Maloney is saying PZ retracted is the claim that Maloney got Wordpress to shut down Michael Hawkins's blog. And, indeed, PZ did say that Maloney did do that, and it turns out that he didn't (Andreas Moritz did), and PZ did say as much.
So, on this particular point, Maloney is right.
He is, of course, still a quack, and following his advice instead of a real doctor's could still kill you.
(I have no idea whether Maloney got Moritz to complain to Wordpress for him, or whether Moritz did it of his own accord. Seeing what Moritz writes about PZ and Steve Novella, and remembering the phenomenon of projection, I'm guessing the former.)
This was over twenty years ago, but I was at a technical convention in Atlanta. There was another convention nearby of godbots, and some of them were staying in our hotel. This lead to many amusing scenes, such as the night I and several other reprobates went bar-hopping: At one bar, as soon as we opened the door, we noticed the place was full of godbots, so without saying a word and acting rather like the Three Stooges, backed out of the bar in reverse, around the corner (still going in reverse), backed up against the wall, looked at each other and said things like “Now fucking what?” “Run!” “Which way?!” “Away!”
Anyways, one evening I get into the lift at the hotel (I'm up on the umpteenth floor, far too high to climb the stairs) and two Godbot Blimps walk in (Fat? No, not fat. Fat people would get lost behind these two…). The female was wearing about a metric ton of fake pearls, an entire factory's annual production of makeup, and was doused in something so foul, so cruel, that within about a floor or two as the lift ascended the stench was causing tears to running from my eyes and I (and the others squashed up against the walls) were starting to cough…
Fortunately, the lift stopped soon, and everyone in the lift except the Blimps ran out gasping for air. When I caught the same lift a bit later to continue to my room, it still reeked, as did my clothes the next morning.
p.s. Just to stay on topic: Mrs Blimp probably took lessons from Christopher Maloney, Quack. You need a special type of idiocy to be that awful, clewless, and dangerous, all which are specialities of Christopher Maloney, Quack.
So... Christopher Maloney is a quack.
I'd argue the point, if I could, just to be contrarian.
But I can't, without stooping to dishonesty.
So I shan't.
Ahhh Christopher Maloney. When a whole group of people tell you you're wrong, it's much easier to blame the alpha male and act as if everyone else is in lockstep. It couldn't be that you're trying to make out any criticism is merely an extension of PZed Myers will...
Just curious, who are you fighting this imaginary hydra for anyway?
So "quackass" is officially my new favorite word. I really liked his rant in the endless thread about skeptics all being 18 year old college freshman English majors. What nonsense. I'm an 18 year old college freshman philosophy major, thankyouverymuch.
Pharyngula comes in as the 6th hit when you google his name:)
Ness close behind at top of second page
Aren't you all somehow missing the point here - that certain entreprenuers are jumping onto part-developed science and proceeding to inflate the results in order to make money for themselves.
Naturopaths have seen the chance to muscle in on developing studies, ones that tell us that there are beneficial effects from compounds in certain plants, at least when they are consumed 'au naturel'. Garlic is great against colds - garlic pills seem to be useless, etc. etc.
In cases like these, I like to type "christopher maloney is a" into the Google search box, and see what completion suggestions teh Google comes up with.
It has only one for Maloney. Who can guess what it is?
Instead of ranting and raving about how a multiheaded skeptic hydra is out to get him, perhaps he should be working on changing that. Imagine if two options came out, one calling him a quack and the other calling him the "world's leading expert on shirts" he might not be so scared of the PZhydra.
@wjv
It wouldn't happen to say "christopher maloney is a quack" perchance?
:-D
Quite.
It's just another standard issue insinuation, brought in to accompany his 'I'm an independent thinker; all who have noticed and remarked upon my blatant dishonesty, irrationality, and general sleaziness are clearly, by contrast, mere drones' bit.
See, by this 'I have lost respect' maneuver, he implies he was honestly prepared to respect and consider in good faith the opinions of those criticizing him--really, man, he swears--perhaps, indeed, even prepared to give up his rather disgusting career path and enter something somewhat less appalling* should the case for the general shoddiness of his behaviour be made to his satisfaction--but he was terribly disappointed to discover his critics actually just weren't being reasonable, after all, see.
(*/Like, say, travel agent specializing in arranging transportation and lodging for persons interested in visiting southeast Asia to check out the sex tourism scene... Don't believe I'd suggested that one as yet.)
I hadn't heard about this "quack, Christopher Maloney."
"Christopher Maloney is a quack," you say?
What evidence to you have that "Christopher Maloney is a quack?"
You know, besides his website, his rantings on here and elsewhere, and his bogus (IMHO lol) claims regarding what he can and cannot do with stuff he dug off his shoe.
That was fun.
We need Quackbusters T-Shirts (like Ghostbusters but with a duck instead of the ghost. Or maybe a picture of Christopher Maloney).
Until this thread, I did not realise that Chris Meloni was a gay icon (but then I never saw him in Oz, only in L&O: SVU). I'm a middle-aged woman and I've always rather fancied him, too. But you guys can have him; I have plenty of other lust objects.
As for patchouli, I confess I like the stuff (albeit not in stink-out-the-entire-neighbourhood quantities). I wore it alot in the 70s and still sometimes use the oil to perfume the bathroom. Ditto musk (which, I vaguely recall reading yonks ago, is more attractive to females than to males). OTOH, I'm allergic to sandalwood and get a blinding headache every time I'm around sandalwood incense.
This guy is so much fun. I wrote this piece back when the original fiasco went down to give him some "support"
http://carlsagansdanceparty.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/christopher-malone…
I hope he has lost business because of us.
I hope this was not mentioned elsewhere:
If it looks like a quack,
If it talks like a quack,
If it ducks like a quack,
Does it wok like a duck?
I refuse to participate in the "Christopher Maloney is a quack" game. While it may be true that Christopher Maloney is a quack, it is rather mean to load down a thread with the text "Christopher Maloney is a quack" (or variants such as "Chris Maloney is a quack" or "Why is Christopher Maloney such a quack?") just to try and rig Google to highlight how much of a quack Christopher Maloney is.
So there.
It looks like Maloney is now threatening to go to the police about my "bullying" ways. Dear!
http://forthesakeofscience.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/christopher-maloney…
I heartily agree with Naked Bunny with a Whip. Whether or not Christopher Maloney is a quack, (and I am certain that Christopher Maloney is a quack) this thread is getting weighed down with "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" comments, "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" posts, "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" references, instructions to find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Google, speculation as to what, exactly, "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" actually means; whereas I am wondering whether (since Christopher Maloney is a quack) all Christopher Maloneys are quacks.
I mean, we should be told. If only this Christopher Maloney is a quack, then that should be made plain.
Also, we should be told how to find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on other search engines.
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Ask?
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Bing?
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Cuil?
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Kosmix?
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Yahoo! Search?
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Yebol?
Or (my personal favourite, this)
Can we find "Christopher Maloney is a Quack" on Duck Duck Go?
Myers,
We’ve had this discussion before. Those interested should read the previous thread on my quacking. It is irresponsible to engage in the sort of attacks that you do without expecting a portion of your less well balanced clones to threaten violence. Once again, I’ve got email from people who can’t spell but know how to threaten.
Michael Hawkins is a stalker: a person obsessed with another person who creeps around that person’s house in the predawn hours and papers his neighborhood with a newspaper devoted to him. That you have chosen once again to elevate Hawkins’ to national standing in your blog is both irresponsible and beyond imagining from someone who claims to have had some interaction with undergraduates. Do you not realize you are his idol? I have written to you personally about the concerns of both his college deans and the Augusta police department.
I have requested meeting Hawkins’ in person, and he has responded by running to your blog. Clearly, he prefers the blogosphere to real life.
I refer all other readers to my website under Pharyngula Attacks. Specific familiar names crop up here. Nerd of Redhead, you can find your JAMA article there. Sastra, my best hope for an objective human being, I replied with evidence and you disappeared from the thread. The rest of you, take a moment to think independently about what I have posted. Read through the entire Novella postings and the Homeopaths on the run postings. I have provided more evidence of my stands on the issues than Myers, Novella, or anyone else here.
Replies should contain medline links. If they do not, they are authoritarian opinions, not scientific ones. Myers, I have stated on my website and here that you did not and have not objectively evaluated my practice. You are relying on Hawkins’ information, and he is having a great time because of his particular obsession. Please take the time, because you are currently continuing an error. My site has hundreds of evidence-based studies (under what do I treat) and only a few areas of conflict that I explain fully. I practice evidence-based medicine, and also address a variety of alternative medicine issues like autism and vaccination. If you truly take a few minutes, you will find that I have taken great pains to protect those I practice from any harm and that I cross refer to a variety of local M.D.s and D.O.s . I have explained this to you at length on various posts (without any reply) but evidently it is more “fun” to attack people that to think about the ramifications of that attack.
I did hold your site in fairly high regard when I began. I have dedicated myself to answering all posts with the best evidence-based information available. I posted those replies on my website when readers had difficulty following the endless thread. After a month of writing, I found myself moderated off and assumed that I had been “dungeoned.” I wrote to you the same day personally and received no reply, confirming my suspicions. If you do not check your moderation and you do not respond to your personal email, then what amorphous deity do you expect to accomplish those tasks?
Christopher Maloney, evidence-based Naturopathic Doctor.
Quack, you are a liar and bullshitter, as shown by your closing. You aren't an evidence based anything. You are a woomeister and con man. You have no real conclusive evidence, you present no real conclusive evidence (except to delusional fools like yourself), and your inane and insane attempt to justify your conman existence are classic examples of those who can't think, and are out for a quick buck. What a loser.
Dear Michael Hawkins,
Evidently wit is lost on an English major these days. I was saying: "let's do lunch." I'll buy and you can regale me with all the reasons I shouldn't be in practice. Give me a call. I'm sure you have the number memorized.
Dear Nerd, evidently you haven't read anything. Here is the JAMA study you requested. I will not reply to future posts unless you provide medline links yourself.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/282/14/1329
quack
Talk about a fucking Gish Gallop. Where to begin?
1) It was more like 10pm, not "predawn".
2) PZ has been my idol only since he rode that dinosaur.
3) I also had an article about poker in my paper.
4) Quack, quack, quack.
For those reading this post, I've finally taken the step of contacting Hawkins directly on his little parrot blog. http://forthesakeofscience.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/christopher-maloney…
In it he defends his stalking behavior and refuses to meet with me in person because I'm "creepy" and "angry." Classic projection.
I am mostly concerned with the absolute lack of response from Myers. If Hawkins' says "jump" he says "how high?" But he evidently takes no time to moderate the blog, answer personal email, or respond to relevant posts. The information about Pharyngula has been up for months, but Myers has never read my site, relying on hearsay from Hawkins. Here it is again: www.maloneymedical.com.
Hawkins' for his part, will not ever meet with me. Hawkins will instead come running to his father figure, and Myers fulfills him by bullying me. Bravo, dysfunctional internet family unit.
By the way, Myers, you can't do any more damage to me. I'm not a major player, and never was, in the alternative medicine game. Your interest in me was simply sparked by Hawkins. If you were serious about quackery, you wouldn't be spending more energy on a small town Maine N.D. It would be a joke if it wasn't pathetic. Since clearly you don't even control your own blog, I now consider it about as useful as the graffiti on a bathroom stall and about as worth responding to.
Hey Quackster, when are you going to shut the fuck up and let things die? At the moment, you keep your idiocy alive.
He owes you no response, being the woosoaked idjit you are. He has cleared the record. That is all he will do. What a loser.
And Quackerster, find another job with more integrity. They always need used car salesmen and telemarketers, both of which would be a step up morally for someone who cons and hurts their patients victims.
Did you catch him following you while wearing shady glasses and an overcoat?
Hint: the persecution card when played wrongly only serves to show oneself as a petulant child.
I thought Hawkins was a clone of PZ.
Yet here you are... Curiouser and curiouser!
It's that Law the name of which I can never remember again.
Dang, I need coffee. My last sentence in #90 patients should be strikethrough, not italics.
Qvackster, just go away and never come back. Then things will die down. I never mention or think about you unless you post. Oh, that's your problem, you are lonely and confused, and want people to yell at you just to get some interaction. That explains your inanity and insanity...
I always come in these threads too late. Ah well, I'll give it a go.
So Quacky, you claim to practice evidence based medicine? What I would like to know is have you ever base treatments on papers like the one you cited about high vitamin D doses give to pregnant women? You remember, the one that had a study population of 59 women. Do you see this as sufficient evidence of a safe and effective treatment? Sorry no medline link, this is a basic science question so I can't see the need for such a thing. Of course you can feel free to use the lack of a link to avoid the question.
Dear Fossil
Of course not. The point of the study was that standard medical doctors are using much higher doses than the RDA of vitamin D. If you check with pharmacies here in the U.S., pharmacists stock 400 IU and 50,000 IU of vitamin D. The latter dosage is prescribed by M.D.s for sufferers of psoriasis.
Given that I was taught in medical school that 2,000 IU of vitamin D was possibly toxic and might cause hypercalcemia, it always seemed odd to me that psoriasis is considered so life threatening to merit such drastic intervention.
But when you actually search medline, we don't have the definitive studies of vitamin D toxicity that most Pharyngulites wrongly assume must have been done. I found anecdotal reports of toxicity but the dosages, like Null's poisoning, were in the hundreds of thousands.
So, no, fossil, I wouldn't prescribe a pregnant mother anything like that amount of vitamin D. But I would have her vitamin D blood levels checked. Up here in Maine we see a lot of deficiency, particularly in the winter months.
For those replying, please provide medline links to the definitive vitamin D studies. If you don't have anything useful to add, I think we all know your opinion.
Christopher Maloney, Naturopathic Doctor.
Poor Duck of Placebo. What a loser. We in the science based community know that vitamin D can be a problem and treat it accordingly. But you do more than that, and the unevidenced woo is strong in your malpractice. We know that. Overall, you don't run an evidence based practice, as there is no solid well run studies to back you up. All PLACEBO, the wonder drug of the mind...
Baloney,
Please elaborate what Vitamin D levels you would measure, what information you would gather from those measurements, and while you're at it, why they, taken in isolation, would tell you absolutely fuckall nothing.
Thanks.