An envious fever of pale and bloodless emulation...

Fever is a fascinating phenomenon. The biochemistry and physiology of it is fairly well understood (sort of), but historically and presently, it is endowed with great teleologic power. The nearly magical ability of the body to heat up dramatically was noted by the earliest physicians. In the Hippocratean school, fever was often viewed within the humoral framework as an excess of yellow bile and was seen to be beneficial, although it was also recognized that some fevers were a grave sign. Later in the history of medicine, fever was equated with infection as was thought to be "a bad thing" and fought with whatever means were available.

In modern medicine, fever is not seen as a good or bad thing, but as a sign of "a commotion in the blood". The same careful observations that the ancients made were made again in the context of science, and the physiology of fever was teased out. Certain substances (such as endotoxin) were found to reliably reproduce fever, and observations such as this helped us understand what fever is.

Fever as a therapy in and of itself was explored by Dr. Wiliiam Coley in the early 20th century when he noticed that cancer patients who contracted and survived erysipelas infections sometimes had regression of tumor. He developed an early form of immunotherapy whereby he gave people a dose of "toxins" inducing a sepsis-like response. In modern times, interleukin-2 is used to treat some cancers and makes people appear similarly septic.

Throughout much of the last century, though, fever has generally been seen as a "bad thing" because of it's association with illness. Fevers are often associated with discomfort, and medications that lower fever make people feel better. This may be because of the lowering of the fever, or it may be because the medication reduces the production of substances that cause both the fever and the discomfort.

It has long been suspected, and some animal models have borne it out, that fever can be beneficial in helping improve some parameters of infection. No good studies, however, have shown any significant benefit in humans to allowing a fever to "run its course", and in children, fevers can cause seizures. In the hospital we often hold off on treating fevers in order to observe the course of a disease, but more often then not, we treat fevers to make people feel better.

But if you're a doctor-wannabe, you may look at this long history, ignore all of modern immunology, and take a child-like view of fever.

Immunology is endlessly fascinating. The general and specific responses we have evolved to protect ourselves from disease are incredibly complex. But some people have the ability to take that complexity and gum it down into a useless pablum. Dana Ullman ("Hahnemann's cognitively-impaired bulldog") thinks that because fever may be a beneficial adaptation, it is the key to fighting disease. In his mind, lowering a fever is akin to encouraging the disease.

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta had a recent case of swine flu, and this is what Ullman had to say:

It is therefore no wonder that he became the sickest he has ever become. Taking drugs that suppress fever disables the body's own defenses in fighting infection. It is akin to unscrewing the warning oil pressure light in your car as a way to get rid of that irritating red signal. Such "treatment" is not curative, and in fact, it can lead to much more serious problems.

What an idiot. Gupta knows that ibuprofen won't treat the flu---just as he knows that ibuprofen is unlikely to delay his getting better.

Look, Dana, medicine is hard. You can't just decide some day to be an "expert"---that actually requires studying the hard-won scientific knowledge of those who came before you, not elaborating foolishly on any bubbe meise you hear about. And I'm not even touching his lauding of Royal Copeland, the homeopath who helped stand in the way of real infection control during the pandemic of 1918. If he is one of your heroes, you are reading the wrong books.

Look. Not everyone has the cognitive capacity or intellectual honesty to be a doctor---and that's OK. There's a lot of careers out there. It's OK to admit that there are people more qualified than you in a particular field. I'm not going to pretend to practice surgery, and Dana Ullman shouldn't pretend to understand human biology. It really is that simple.

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1. Immunology is endlessly fascinating, complicated, and makes for some real bastard test questions. It's really cool stuff.
2. If I know that my oil pressure is low, disabling the pressure gauge will not alter the process of my engine seizing should I fail to intervene. Ullman fails at analogy, among many other things: I suppose she would tank the SAT as well as the MCAT. Of course, I am assuming that she understands the mechanics of an internal combustion engine. She probably does not.
3. My goal is to use "commotion in the blood" in the hospital within a week.

By Arnold T. Pants (not verified) on 01 Oct 2009 #permalink

"Commotion in the blood"? That sounds very, er, Galen-ish (he's the guy who came up with the four humors theory, right?).

By Radioactive afikomen (not verified) on 01 Oct 2009 #permalink

I just took my temperature with a digital thermometer of the type available at most drug stores.

It reads 95.7. As one who dislikes cooled beverages, but loves hot coffee and tea, I wonder if this temperature is not also indicative of some type of infection... or other abnormality.

When I was younger (<35) shivering was always an indication of a higher than normal temperature. It always indicated a viral or bacterial infection.

Now that I am older, shivering almost always indicates a lower than normal temperature, yet it doesn't indicate infection.

Tomorrow I will be sore from my muscles shivering, yet my temperature will be close to 98.6.

Can someone tell me how to present this to my PCP? The only reason I took my temp in the first place was because of the shivering. I expected it to be high... and was quite surprised.

And... for those of you who think insurance guarantees adequate or prompt access to one's PCP, I am obligate that an abnormal temp (high or low) doesn't get one an appointment.

Of course... I could have gone to the ER.

Radioactive afikomen:

If the concept goes all the way back to Galen, it must be established and proven, right?

Does anyone know of a source for rhino horn?

By Uncle Glenny (not verified) on 01 Oct 2009 #permalink

hmm... just re-read my earlier comment and I am appalled at the lack of sense in it.

Nausea just woke me up. I'm still shivering, but my temp is up to 97.2 now.

Donna B.,

Cold intolerance and low temperature can be symptoms of hypothyroidism. I'm not a doctor so I don't know how low the temperature has to be to "count" as being too low, but 98.6 is just a midpoint and it's normal to vary from that to some extent. Check the
Wikipedia page
for hypothyroidism, and if you have any other symptoms, ask your doctor to do some blood tests.

@Arnold T. Pants: Teh DUllman isn't a she, his full name is Gregory Dana Ullman.

For a few years now, my temperature varies much more than is common. For me, likely due to damage in or around my hypothalamus. Unfortunately, I'm also particularly heat-sensitive and getting too hot noticeably affects my neurological function. Sum of this is that I'm not doing my best at the top half of my now-usual temperature range. But having a fever very often, the risk in taking N-SAIDs or acetaminophen for a long span of time isn't worth the benefits I could gain by having my temperature drop maybe half a degree F. My fevers, so to speak, aren't doing a thing for me that's beneficial. Even if the infection stuff were so, that concept wouldn't apply here because I'm often feverish absent any infection. (This makes times I get sick difficult both for me to realize I'm sick and for clinicians to diagnose.. because my temperature means very little.) But I can't treat my high temps with drugs because chronic use wouldn't be worth it. I'm not about to use homeopathy, though. I go more pure than that (or than that pretends to be): When I'm hot, I drink cool water, I bath in it, I apply wet things to my skin to cool by evaporation. I'm familiar with cooling the body by natural means--drinking water, eating popsicles,eating salad instead of hot soup, baths, evaporation, keeping the environment cool. Why aren't these promoted by people who don't like the use of antipyretics? Oh yeah, because they don't make people money.