I can't really blame George Monbiot or anyone else for buying the narrative hype. Right now the overwhelming narrative is that we have no energy constraints at all. Folks wonder aloud whether the US should join OPEC. Increasingly ridiculous projections are made about the potential of shale oil and new drilling techniques. Slight upticks are assumed to be headed to their logical extremes, and Harvard's Kennedy School of Government issues a report saying we've got all the oil we could ever want. So is it really surprising that Monbiot, who has been focused on climate change, not peak oil, is buying the story, asks Treehugger? Treehugger also offers a great link to Heading Out's Oil Drum Rebuttal to the Harvard Report, which notes that this ia based on a whole lot of assumptions including capacity for production that Saudi Arabia has claimed but never demonstrated, a huge leap in Iraqi oil production, which everyone has said will happen any day now since 2003 and hasn't, and a lot of overstatements of US shale production:
As I noted in my review of the Citicorp report this optimism flies in the face of the views of the DMR in North Dakota – who ought to know, since they have the data. The report further seems a little confused on how horizontal wells work in these reservoirs. As Aramco has noted, one cannot keep drilling longer and longer holes and expect the well production to double with that increase in length. Because of the need to maintain differential pressures between the reservoir and the well, there are optimal lengths for any given formation. And as I have also noted, the report flies in the face of the data on field production from the deeper wells of the Gulf of Mexico.
It seems pertinent to close with the report’s list of assumptions on which the gain in oil production from the Bakken is based:
*A price of oil (WTI) equal to or greater than $ 70 per barrel through 2020
*A constant 200 drilling rigs per week;
*An estimated ultimate recovery rate of 10 percent per individual producing well (which in most cases has already been exceeded) and for the overall formation;
*An OOP calculated on the basis of less than half the mean figure of Price’s 1999 assessment (413 billion barrels of OOP, 100 billion of proven reserves, including Three Forks).
Consequently, I expect 300 billion barrels of OOP and 45 billion of proven oil reserves, including Three Forks;
*A combined average depletion rate for each producing well of 15 percent over the first five years, followed by a 7 percent depletion rate;
*A level of porosity and permeability of the Bakken/Three Forks formation derived from those experienced so far by oil companies engaged in the area.
Based on these assumptions, my simulation yields an additional unrestricted oil production from the Bakken and Three Forks plays of around 2.5 mbd by 2020, leading to a total unrestricted production of more than 3 mbd by 2020.
Enough, already! There are too many unrealistic assumptions to make this worth spending more time on. To illustrate but one of the critical points - this is the graph that I have shown in earlier posts of the decline rate of a typical well in the Bakken. You can clearly see that the decline rate is much steeper than 15% in the first five years.
In a lot of ways, this is just another version of the same old, same old - take the most optimistic imaginable assumptions and push them all together in new ways without regard to any possible negative consequences or less optimistic outcomes, and lo and behold, all problems disappear. We can do the same thing with anything else (and, in fact, that's pretty much how modern economics often works) - want to see a world security picture in which everything is rosy? All we need is the most cheerful predictions. Want to have 6% annual year over year economic growth? Easy to find experts to say it could happen - all you have to do is just pretend they are the only voices that matter.
Moreover, as Kurt Cobb has pointed out, the more shrill and passionate the insistence that peak oil is over as an issue, the more nervous everyone really is, as the data does not show a radical increase in production, no matter how badly one is desired. He writes:
It may be disheartening to see so much disinformation in the media spewed by people who ought to know better. But it is ever so delicious to contemplate the desperation hiding behind their fretful posturing and incantation. I can almost hear them say, "It can't be so, it can't be so...it simply mustn't!" They seem to believe that if they say "Bakken, Brazil, offshore, tar sands, technology" enough times in a row, it will make $100-a-barrel oil go away. But that incantation will not make the data go away, and so we must keep pointing out that the trend remains flat despite all of those things.
I also don't blame Monbiot for his credulousness on the math - he's hardly the only one. On the other hand, it wouldn't have been that hard to find the relevant data. Consider, for example, the work of Geologist Jeffrey Brown on this subject. Brown, for those not paying attention is the author of the Export Land Model and also the Vice-President of ASPO-USA. Brown in an email injects his usual incisive numerical analysis to this, and adds in the net export picture (remember, nations don't stop using oil just because other people would like them to export it - witness the US):
Watching the numbers tells a very different story than the cornucopians want to hear, but you do have to do your research to hear it in the swell of nonsense. What I do blame Monbiot for is this rather intellectually disingenuous passage, and his rather ridiculous claim that the Harvard report lays all doubt about fossil fuel reserves to rest (in fact, we've known for years (since the Hansen/Kharecha study) that there is adequate coal to fry the planet, and oil and natural gas reserves enough to help get us well past all the critical tipping points - the idea that this is news is completely ridiculous):
Among environmentalists it was never clear, even to ourselves, whether or not we wanted it to happen. It had the potential both to shock the world into economic transformation, averting future catastrophes, and to generate catastrophes of its own, including a shift into even more damaging technologies, such as biofuels and petrol made from coal. Even so, peak oil was a powerful lever. Governments, businesses and voters who seemed impervious to the moral case for cutting the use of fossil fuels might, we hoped, respond to the economic case.
That, I think, either says more about George Monbiot than about "environmentalists" or it is straight out horse shit. As noted above, no one with four brain cells to rub together has ever thought that peak oil could get us out of climate change - since the emergent consensus that 350ppm might represent a critical tipping point, there's very little debate on this subject by credible scholars, simply because we know we could cross that line because we have.
Moreover, anyone familiar with the issues never thought that peak oil was an answer to the climate crisis - while there are considerable debates on how much coal there is in the ground, no one who takes peak oil seriously doubts that an energy crisis will drive us to burning more coal to generate compensatory electricity, to burning more wood in areas that have relied on heating oil, to hunger because of the tremendous oil dependency of our food system. Did "environmentalists" want it to happen? The biggest drivers of climate change are unlikely to be helped in the near term by peak oil - and most people could figure that out. So did we want it? Ummm...yeah, kind of the same way I want to have six root canals with blunt dental instruments and no anaesthesia.
Climate change alone contains plenty of economic incentives to act - we don't need peak oil for that. Monbiot either completely fails to understand what peak oil implies, or he is shifting the ground for purely rhetoric effect, but not honestly. In fact, for the most part there has always been a profound tension between peak oil and climate change - with adherents to both sides, environmentalists all in most cases, arguing that one is primary and the other secondary. Moreover, they both result in slightly different natural responses - if you don't believe in climate change, there really is no reason not to burn all that coal (how much coal there is is another issue). If you believe in peak oil, liquid fuels are the focus, not electrical generation and coal plants, except as a transitional fuel. They generate a lot of different kinds of responses.
I genuinely don't blame Monbiot for not looking carefully at the data and buying the hype - after all, this hype is on everyone's lips. What I do blame him for is his implication that peak oil is something that you believe in because you want to, whereas climate change belief is data-driven. Ultimately, both these things are data-driven - it is much more fun to believe that the oil will always be there and that the world is not warming than either one. The only problem is that belief in either comes at the cost of one's self-respect after you do even minimal data analysis - looking carefully at the data, at the play out rates of new fields and the flat reality of oil production tells a very different story.
If Monbiot wanted to belief peak oil was true so that it could save us from climate change, he was kidding himself. If he wants to believe it is untrue because it can't, well, that seems like a line of faulty reasoning right there.
I think I get how Monbiot wanted but didn't want peak oil to save us from ourselves: it's not that absolute supply constraints would prevent climate change, but the hope, if it can be called that, that the associated economic collapse from high energy prices could take out enough of industrial society as we know it to dramatically lower emissions. I think I read somewhere that the 2008 economic troubles were one of the only times when US oil consumption actually decreased. From reading his last few posts, it sounds like he's losing all hope of the sort of global action we so desperately need. I can relate to the sentiment of both wishing for and dreading peak oil, even if it isn't logical to think it can save us from ourselves..
Sharon, of course you are wrong stating "Folks wonder aloud whether the US should join OPEC". In fact it's the other way round: OPEC should join the US! This would make things much easier - and as soon as Iran is the 66th state and Iraq the 69th we can be sure that all our soldiers are home again :-)
Well, James Lovelock has recently come out and said that he was too alarmist about climate change and that he thinks it isnt happening as fast as previously thought. I admit I listened to him because he was such a pioneer in the climate field. Now he says he was wrong.
I'm sitting out the rest of 2012 - there is too much noise, hype, agendas and ego out there to get a clear signal. The bottom line is that humanity is at a major crossroads and NOBODY knows how it is going to play out.
What I do know from my own field of expertise - transpersonal psychology, comparative esoteric spirituality and psychedelic research - is that a lot of people are having tremendous initiatory, mystical, visionary and transcendental experiences, and I dont think this is a coincidence, and i dont think the phenomena is insignificant or trivial.
What I dont like about some Peak Oil writers is this almost joyous glee that humanity is going to get its comeuppance, go down hard and never realize a higher destiny. I might have more to say about this someday, but as for 2012, I am going to sit it out and watch and listen. Unless i feel I have something really important to add to the discussion - and I doubt I will - I might have more to say in Jan. 2013. Then again maybe I wont.
Lovelock was never a "pioneer in the climate field", and every serious climatologist who bothered to listen told him he was being too alarmist at the time. It's not the case that climate change "isnt happening as fast as previously thought", it's that it's not happening as fast as Lovelock himself thought it would, or with such severe consequences - but Lovelock's previous ideas on the subject were way more extreme than could be supported by mainstream climatology.
In terms of that mainstream climatology, we're progressing pretty much as predicted, within reasonable margins of error.
The desperation of the "environmentalist" Luddites to come up with scare stories is one of these things that is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel.
Clearly everybody in the movement who ever made a bet and actually believes a word they sat will be willing to take the Ehrlich end ot the Simon-Ehrlich bet again. Clearly not one mem,ber of the movement, least of all Ehrlich, has any doubt at all that their scare stories are lies.
Anybody wish to make a prediction for when this peak oil, due annually since the mid 1970s, is going to be reached?
I wonder if whiner here is the original bucker?
"Well, James Lovelock has recently come out and said that he was too alarmist about climate change and that he thinks it isnt happening as fast as previously though"
Have you checked how fast James Lovelock thought it was going to happen?
"By 2040, parts of the Sahara desert will have moved into middle Europe. We are talking about Paris – as far north as Berlin. In Britain we will escape because of our oceanic position."
"If you take the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predictions, then by 2040 every summer in Europe will be as hot as it was in 2003 – between 110F and 120F. It is not the death of people that is the main problem, it is the fact that the plants can't grow – there will be almost no food grown in Europe."
"That, I think, either says more about George Monbiot than about “environmentalists” or it is straight out horse shit. As noted above, no one with four brain cells to rub together has ever thought that peak oil could get us out of climate change"
Maybe the problem is that you thought there were people out there with exactly four brain cells to rub together? The argument was that peak oil could cause a large enough economic shock to create an opportunity for change. I would think you have enough brain cells to manage that concept. It did manage to drastically reduce US emissions for a few years, or did you miss that?
And what's with this: "no one who takes peak oil seriously doubts that an energy crisis will drive us to burning more coal to generate compensatory electricity"
... but a few sentences later ...
"If you believe in peak oil, liquid fuels are the focus, not electrical generation and coal plants, except as a transitional fuel."
So is more electricity generation a solution to liquid fuel transportation problems, or not? And what does it mean to "believe in peak oil"?? It's not a religion. Not one of your better posts. Nor one of Monbiot's for that matter.
So - any form of energy generation includes various losses, due to conversion efficiencies, which inevitably turn into heat. Does anyone know how long heat that is generated at the surface of the earth takes to escape the earth?
Peak oil? Climate change? Both are merely symptoms of carrying capacity overshoot - too many people consuming too few resources.
Sharon writes an interesting counterpoint to Monbiot but misses the larger global dynamic. In fact, her decision to have 4 children has only made worse the problems of Peak oil and Climate change. Her failure in responsible family planning has made her part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Intentionally deciding to increase resource demand and cause greater resource consumption and environmental degradation - locally or globally - is not "being the change you wish to see in the world." Nor is it "Leadership by Example."
Those who are oblivious to resource limits and who think they are exempt from the responsibility of limiting family size should not be righteously pontificating on community sustainability.
Hypocrisy is not a family value. And Denial does not help us transition to a viable future.
KJM, the economic recession in no way reduced emissions to anything like sustainable levels, or in any way that approached the level of emissions reduction required to avoid crossing major tipping points. And I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that all my readers would grasp that when the need involved reduction in emissions to 90-94% (Monbiot's own calculations, and possibly outdatedly high), that reducing economic activity enough to generate that result would be incredibly destructive.
As for the other point, you are right, I didn't specify the time horizons involved or the specific assumptions I was addressing. In the much longer term, as I've written many times, peak oil is likely to push up the use of dirty diesel generation, coal and other high emissions (which, indeed, it often has in parts of the global south when oil prices rose out of reach). In the very short term, there is much talk about using electricity as a transitional fuel, and implying that we can seamlessly make a transition to running our car fleet on solar and wind power. Those claims are wildly exaggerated, but tend to use the language of transitional fuels. I think both concepts are widely known, but I didn't make myself fully clear.
Unfortunately, Sharon fails to understand that 'irresponsible fecundity' prevents 'sustainable community'.
I note that nobody thought it polite to point out that Wow is lying in the "good" cause of ecofascism.
His Lovelock quotes, alleged to show his current view, predate his recent conversion. All they show is how extensive that converesion, brought on by the climategate proof that the alleged "climate scientists" were simply lying.
It is regretable that once agaion we find that NOBODY on the Luddite side is ever willing to point out when their comrades are lying. This may be good tactics but it means that in the longer term it is simply impossible for the "environmental" movement to be consistent whith science or even simply honesty.
Neil, the whole point of Wow's comment is to illustrate the ridiculously absurd things Lovelock was claiming before his recent change of heart. It's quite plain, thanks to his use of the past tense. There is no reasonable way to read that comment as being intended to show Lovelock's current view.
However, I'm going to assume that you've simply made an honest mistake, rather than accuse you of lying, bad faith, insanity, or mental deficiency. It's an idea you might like to try sometime.