The surprising cognitive abilities of crows

I have seen crows that have even used wire to fashion hooks, and things of that nature. Birds are awesome.

Exactly Fred, I was asking myself the same question quite a few times.
If there was no cataclysm, and the dinosaurs did not die out, would we be much more than livestock now?

Considering that ravens are, like, scarily intelligent, I don't find this too surprising.

Cool though!

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Fred, re. intelligent dinosaurs: Some archaeologist worked out how a fairly common dinosaur could have evolved into an intelligent biped, and what that creature would look like. He created a model of it for a museum. And then he found out that it bore an amazing resemblance to the "Grays" (a species of ET) of UFO mythos.

From this I tend to think that humans have a kind of instinct-level or archetypal grasp of alternative histories, from which they draw the elements that comprise their myths. If I was looking to create a species of ET for use in fiction, it might be sensible to derive it from the logical progression of a different evolutionary lineage on Earth than that which led to humans. Science fiction authors do this explicitly and perhaps more fantastically for effect, but don't underestimate what the untrained imaginations of average people can also accomplish.

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this is such bullshit. the crow was taught to make the hook by a human.
Don't believe everything you see on the net. such crap.

Well, stone the crows! That's an interesting idea.

This idea of intelligence is, for me, the most intuitively objectionable aspect of evolution as it's taught. Logically thinking, I would expect intelligence to be selected for most of the time, and that species would be getting progressively smarter. In fact, taking natural selection at face value, I would expect dolphins, wolves, chimps, and crows to be as intelligent as we are - if not more so. Animals with longer evolutionary histories should, overall, be smarter. Wouldn't the smartest organism more often than not survive and reproduce? The sentience of humans, in this theory, just doesn't add up.

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Of course they're intelligent, otherwise how could they form a band and call it Stone Crowses?!

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Perhaps some completely different highly intelligent organism might have developed tools usage and built a radically different tool using civilization that raised farmed primates for food like we do with chickens today?

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However, if birds are actually descended from dinosaurs that makes me wonder if creatures such as TRex hadn't been wiped out by some cataclysm would humans ever even had had a chance to evolve and build civilizations on this planet?

I mean, really?? I'm a scientist, and just reading that even made *my* eyes glaze over. If one thing they're trying to convey is the importance and relevance of the scientist's research to GQ readers, what percentage of the readers are really going to walk away with a deeper understanding of what Dr. Jamieson does by reading that description? It would have been a small thing to ask each participant to submit a layman-friendly version of their research (their "elevator talk" description, for example) for GQ to include.

Finally--one of the "scientists" is Dr. Oz. What is he doing in there? One, I would think he's already well-known enough; why not save that spot for another scientist? Two, yes, I know he's actually done research and published, and is on the faculty at Columbia. Fantastic. He's also a serious woo peddler, who has even featured everyone's favorite "alternative" doc, Joseph Mercola, on his talk show, and discussed how vaccines may be playing a role in autism and allergies (despite mounds of evidence to the contrary). This seems to completely contradict their goal of "research funding as a national priority," since Oz is often (and Mercola is always) highly critical of "mainstream medicine." I really don't understand his inclusion, and think it's to the detriment of the rest of the campaign.

Well, stone the crows! That's an interesting idea

However, if birds are actually descended from dinosaurs that makes me wonder if creatures such as TRex hadn't been wiped out by some cataclysm would humans ever even had had a chance to evolve and build civilizations on this planet?

Nor in Canada! Oh the irony!

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OK, I'll come clean: this reminds me of an embarrassingly recent conversation with my materials science-trained boyfriend.

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Interesting read, but such experiments hide more than what they reveal.

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Of course they're intelligent, otherwise how could they form a band and call it Stone Crowses?!

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The fact that crows can recognize peoples faces is interesting it is kind of a test to see if the crows can actual remember someones face. which indeed shows they are smart to an extent.

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Actually this is a CBC doc that was aired on PBS in the States.

Vive le Canada!

More lucrative than crows, rat trading, but this doesn't seem to really involve intelligence.
Side note: none of the PBS videos can be viewed in France due to %@!# copyright restrictions.

Of course they're intelligent, otherwise how could they form a band and call it Stone Crowses?!

Well, stone the crows! That's an interesting idea.

Nor in Canada! Oh the irony!

Very interesting indeed.

However, if birds are actually descended from dinosaurs that makes me wonder if creatures such as TRex hadn't been wiped out by some cataclysm would humans ever even had had a chance to evolve and build civilizations on this planet?

Perhaps some completely different highly intelligent organism might have developed tools usage and built a radically different tool using civilization that raised farmed primates for food like we do with chickens today?

KFM, Kentucky Fried Monkeys, well maybe they would have preferred their monkeys raw in little rice and seaweed rolls while enjoying intercontinental flights to warmer southern climes when it was too cold in the northern hemisphere... and CO2 caused global warming would now be hailed as the greatest achievement in the history of intelligent dinosaurs.