"You guess what? That you shouldve kept your mouth shut?"

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Wait, which side is ERV on? Funny video, though.

By William Wallace (not verified) on 13 Mar 2011 #permalink

@William Wallace:

I would guess that ERV is on the side of the hostess. All of the points she made were actually good ones. The fact that she turns out to be a hypocrite ("fine in moderate amounts" is true. The daughter clearly had more than a moderate amount) is irrelevant.

Alcohol, nicotine, pot, smack, crack, and meth are fine in moderation. Did she agree with the "check out our web site, and no other web sites"?

By William Wallace (not verified) on 13 Mar 2011 #permalink

@Willy Wally

Do you read ERV's posts? Has she ever had anything positive to say about "Alcohol, nicotine, pot, smack, crack, and meth"? Of which, crack is absolutely not fine in any amount.

However, she has many times made the point that "bad foods" don't exist. Over all diet is what is important. Thus, fine in moderation.

"Did she agree with the "check out our web site, and no other web sites"?"

Jebus, you're an idiot.

Willy, yeah I'm sure that she really wanted us to check out a non-existent website.

(Incidentally, am I the only person who noticed potential racial issues in the original commercial? Caring about corn syrup is the sort of thing that a stereotypical white suburban mother would care about, while the other mother seems to be of African-American descent, a population that has a more serious obesity problem than the general population. I suspect that I'm just being oversensitive to race, but I'm not sure.)

I suspect that I'm just being oversensitive to race

I suspected the same when reading your comment. Stephen Jay Gould commented (I think in The Mismeasure of Man) that the black vs white obsession is an almost uniquely American phenomenon.

Wait, which side is ERV on?

I don't think there's necessarily any sides to take. The quick, cutting put-down were hilarious, and something we've probably all wanted to say at one point or another in our lives. And then they smoothly turn the tables at the end to undercut the expected set-up for the closer. It's not really on one side or another.

Alcohol: definitely beneficial in moderation. Studies prove it.
Nicotine: You could argue that in moderation it can be good. Risk for COPD only increases after a Tobacco index of 4 (# of cigarettes per day/20 * Years), and risk of cancer after 10. Not that I'd recommend it 'cause it's very addictive but if you could, it wouldn't be that bad. And it does have it's benefits, like anxiolytic properties or activating properties, pleasure, social aspects, etc (if it didn't, no one would smoke).
Smack: Heroin? Opiods can be used as analgesics.
Crack and meth: I dunno. Guess I'd have to research more.

ERV, you aren't reading enough. HFCS is a big problem. Check out Steve Novella's thread on the subject a while ago. I am glad to have turned away from HFCS years back. I dumped that with transfat, soda/pop (I buy it once in a while though to clean the loo), white bread, and the rest. I am healthier for it. Apart from the fact that fructose is metabolized differently, most HFCS is 55% fructose, a killer.

Anything is bad in excess, but some foods like HFCS are bad in any quantity. There's so much of good tasty food out there without gunk like HFCS. Hot oat meal cereal and dates and walnuts over the junk HFCS laden cereal. Home made lemonade with a pinch of salt or a tsp of sugar instead of OJ. And of course none of the yucky Smuckers gunk called "jam" which is simply flavored sugar.

You don't have to fly to Europe to eat good real food. Just walk across to Canada where politicians haven't been bought out for gunk free food.

Fruit juices are deadly. South Asians in the US with Type II risk are usually advised to kick fruit juices first. That can of gunk Woman#1 is pouring out in the Hulu video is about as healthy as motor oil. Honey and agave too are a problem if you drank as much as you do with a can of pop/soda. Generally people don't even when they add sugar to their coffee or tea.

Marichi is just trollin so I will post more pics.

Thank you, Marichi! *bats-eyelashes*

Honey and agave too are a problem if you drank as much as you do with a can of pop/soda.

But not "bad in any quantity"?

It's not really on one side or another.

I agree, Brian. It's just humor. And it's funny, because it's true. The funniest part is the dig at New York Times reading pseudo-intellectuals who think they know what scientists think. The "natural enough" was funny too.

The part I don't think is funny is the dig on the stay at home mother drinking wine at 10:00 in the morning--the only stay at home moms I've ever met who had drinking problems were on welfare. It's not usually funny to mock welfare recipients, though.

By William Wallace (not verified) on 14 Mar 2011 #permalink

R2: smoking (or possibly nicotine) is also beneficial in cases of ulcerative colitis, although it's not really understood by which mechanism(s) it operates. One of the rare cases in which smoking has health benefits...

Yes, fruit punch is exactly like drinking motor oil. Spot on.

Marichi, you should be careful with those dates, according to the USDA database, the sugar content is about 32g of fructose out of a total 66g of carbohydrates. Might as well be pouring hot bullets on your breakfast! QUICK!!! PANIC!!!!!!!!

Marichi, you should be careful with those dates, according to the USDA database, the sugar content is about 32g of fructose out of a total 66g of carbohydrates. Might as well be pouring hot bullets on your breakfast! QUICK!!! PANIC!!!!!!!!

What's the matter? Can't count? That's 100 g of dates and works out to about 2-3 g sugar/date. Compare that to WD40 Punch which is a few tsp of HFCS per glass. Hot bullets any day. Besides punch is yucky, same for Sunny Delight, besides it isn't half as good as HFCS laden soda when it comes to cleaning the loo.

I agree, Brian. It's just humor. And it's funny, because it's true. The funniest part is the dig at New York Times reading pseudo-intellectuals who think they know what scientists think. The "natural enough" was funny too.

The funny part is that some guys like Will Wall imagine others don't get their information from scientists. Ignoring a bunch of studies on HFCS gunk is funnier still. Who knew I'd find a Steve Milloy fan here!

The part I don't think is funny is the dig on the stay at home mother drinking wine at 10:00 in the morning--the only stay at home moms I've ever met who had drinking problems were on welfare.

Yeah, Betty Ford was on welfare, of sorts, because Gerry Ford was on the government dole for years as US.Rep'tive and then Minority Leader, Veep and then Prez, and then ex-Prez. Or maybe you are right Will Wall, Betty ford didn't do wine, she did martinis at 9.00 am right?

"Alcohol, nicotine, pot, smack, crack, and meth are fine in moderation. Did she agree with the "check out our web site, and no other web sites"?"

I know Willam is a long time pest and reads many of ERV's posts. The amount of willful ignorance William Wallace displays is just staggering. The noise caused by the cognitive dissonance must be so powerful I imagine it's neighbors must constantly complain to the authorities about the racket.

By Sunny Day (not verified) on 15 Mar 2011 #permalink

Thank you, Marichi! *bats-eyelashes*

ERV, I am फ़िदा over you! >:D< <3!!

Isn't WD40 what you spray on bike chains to repel moisture/cure creaky door hinges? Pretty sure I have a spray can in my room and I certainly wouldn't want to drink it...