The truth about bigfoot

They ... the guys ... sold the freezer, with bigfoot inside of it, to some chumps who claim to be "bigfoot scientists", and have taken off, went on the lam, disappeared. According to Countdown (Live, happening now) and it's on CNN (click the picture).
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It turns out on further inspection that it was just that bigfoot suit we all thought it was. The guts and some of the flesh was possum. The foot was made out of rubber.

What a perfect ending. Live by the lie, die (or at least pay) by the lie. That's what I say ...

The supposed corpse of Bigfoot has been revealed as nothing but a rubber costume, and the two US men who boasted about its discovery are now - like the real Bigfoot - missing, an investigator says.

Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer, announced to the world last weekend that they had found a corpse of the legendary ape-like creature in a secret forest location in their home state of Georgia.

But the organisation that arranged that press conference, Searching for Bigfoot Inc, says it was all "a lie" and a "fraud".

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A likely story. Obviously, the Men in Black swooped in, replaced the real body with a costume, and made the discoverers "disappear". It's a conspiracy to keep us from finding out The Truth.

The Truth is Out There.

One of the guys is a police officer, and he's losing his job to boot.

USA Media Guide has Bigfoot links including the group's website, photos, the original story and the "hoax revealed story". It even has a link to a story about one of the "finders" being a former Congressional candidate. Good stuff!

The link is http://www.USAMediaGuide.com

By Harry Knopp (not verified) on 19 Aug 2008 #permalink

Let's not forget the barnum* in all this, Tom Biscardi. Let us hope charges are brought against the three, and that they get the maximum penalty upon conviction.

*After Phineas T. Barnum, showman and huckster in the 19th century.

Well, colour me unsurprised...

"Let us hope charges are brought against the three, and that they get the maximum penalty upon conviction."
What charges? They rang up a few news agencies and said they found Bigfoot, had his body in their freezer and showed a few unconvincing pictures. Is it really their fault that they managed to get more news coverage than the Large Hadron Collider? The same thing happened a month or two back with those idiots who taped an 'alien' looking in a guys bedroom window.
This is what passes for news these days (probably 'science news'!).
Why didn't the news agency just tell them to bugger off or if they needed to cover it to keep up with the competition then they should have done it in a completely skeptical fashion, or better still, make fun of their competitor for taking it seriously.

Sigmund: They sold a fake bigfoot to someone. That is fraud.

They sold a fake bigfoot to someone. That is fraud.

Is it? How do you sell a fake of something that doesn't exist in the first place?

I know it's fraud to sell something that is a fake of something real. Sugar pills instead of actual medications for instance. (Talking about counterfeit drugs here; not homeopathy, which raises its own questions about fraud.)

But if I offer to sell you the body of a bigfoot (or leprechaun, or fairy, or alien, etc.) how can it possibly be a fake? Is it just because it was presented as a real animal and is just a suit and some rubber feet?

As far as I can tell, the "real" bigfoot is quite likely to just be a suit and some rubber feet too. Though with a guy inside. I'm glad they left that part out...

I'm honestly curious about this. Obviously the idea was to make some money off a scam, but how can something be determined to be a fake when there's nothing real to compare it to?

I don't know the answer to any of these questions, but I would suspect that a scam is a scam. Or, they better come up with a real bigfoot.

Is it? How do you sell a fake of something that doesn't exist in the first place?

I think you're being a bit too specific here. The transaction was for the body of a creature (and was represented as an actual biological specimen), and the buyers wound up with a Halloween costume with some animal guts sprinkled on it. It is very clearly a fraudulent transaction. I don't know what sort of legal repercussions there may be for such a thing, however.

Personal highlight of all this silliness: When Biscardi on Fox News calls the two bigfoot finders "heroes" (because of their military service, IIRC).

Now everyone knows they're shameless liars. What does this tell us about inferring honesty from apparent heroism? (And why is the name "McCain" suddenly ringing in my ear?

By Physicalist (not verified) on 20 Aug 2008 #permalink

I'm still not sure that the buyers aren't at least partly (if not almost entirely) responsible for their own predicament.
Remember, these two 'bigfoot hunters' also advertised themselves as leprechaun hunters. As others have pointed out, a 'bigfoot' is, to all extents and purposes, a fake monkey costume and that's what they sold. They had been exposed as fakes weeks ago, according to the thread on Randi's site and news of this had been widespread in the bigfoot community.
By the way, I've got a leprechaun in my fridge.
Any offers?

Oh, they buyers are not only totally responsible (sharing that total responsibility with th perps, thus adding up to an INCREDIBLE 200%!!!! but if I was on the Jury, I would not convict.

I know, I know ... "If the ape suit fits, you must convict..."

But the buyers are normally out their ripping off everyone else with their bigfoot song and dance, and their plan was to rip everyone off in a bigger way than ever before.

They invested in woo and got ... woo. There is some justice in the world.

But it was fraud, and at the very least, the ape suit has 'possum guts all over it and there is quite a dry cleaning bill to address...

I'm not going to give my name nor occupation; I'm too near Retirement. Yet I will let the world Know of what I have not only come to believe, but Know for a fact, about the so call Mystery of "Big Foot". That is not a mistery at all to some in this contry who live traditionaly as a Native American. Their is a Tribe in the U.S. that do so, and occasionally are aproched by Big Foot; sometimes Families of Big Foots. Who ask in a very ancient Native American and Jarbaled French language; sometimes in order to ask for Garlic, Coffee grounds, and other small things such as these. I know it sounds crazy; but its true. Very secretive is this tribal people for in todays world is the very obvious. As for Me; Well I'v Seen And Now I Know...

The only way to prove that the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film is a hoax is to make another film just like it. It's been 45 years since the film was made and so far no one has been able to make a film that looks exactly like the Patterson-Gimlin film. That's because the film is real and so is Bigfoot.

By Jesus Christ (not verified) on 21 Dec 2012 #permalink