Mostly Mute Monday: A runaway blue giant (Synopsis)

“The thing is, when you see your old friends, you come face to face with yourself. I run into someone I’ve known for 40 or 50 years, and they’re old. And I suddenly realize I’m old. It comes as an enormous shock to me. ” -Polly Bergen

It isn't just humans that age rapidly, but stars as well. For the hottest, brightest stars, the aging process occurs the most quickly, as the most massive stars live only a few million years at most before going supernova. Such is the fate of the giant O-class star, ζ Ophiuchi, located just 370 light years away.

Image credit: E. Siegel, created with the free software Stellarium at http://stellarium.org/. Image credit: E. Siegel, created with the free software Stellarium at http://stellarium.org/.

Unlike most stars this massive, however, it isn't found in a newborn cluster of stars, but rather hurtles through the interstellar medium at over 24 km/s (or nearly the speed of the Earth around the Sun), breaking the sound barrier and causing a massive bow shock in the direction of its travel!

Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/UCLA, WISE spacecraft, via http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA13455. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/UCLA, WISE spacecraft, via http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA13455.

Come get the scoop on this fantastic star and this spectacular phenomenon on today's Mostly Mute Monday.

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Here is a really interesting question - if Matter/Mass here on earth gets heavier the faster it moves - that it is perceived as "still" when not being handled - as matter is handled and moved it gets heavier - would that mean that if it was still it would get lighter?

Assuming of course that matter is not "still" even if it is sitting on the ground and not being handled by anything - but taking into account the motion of the earth, solar system, galaxy and the general rotation of the Universe itself (If I should so boldly assume) would matter get "lighter" if it stopped moving?

I think you know where I'm going with this and sadly the obviousness of this is so stupendously stupefying...

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By Orion M Guy (not verified) on 07 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Orion #1: Mass, as an intrinsic property of matter, DOES NOT CHANGE with velocity. What increases with velocity is total energy, and that increase is a perception: the energy _relative_ to an observer who considers themselves stationary increases.

By Michael Kelsey (not verified) on 07 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Ragtag Media #3: Yup! Lev's been fighting this battle for years; he gave the same talk at the Caltech HEP weekly seminar back in the '90s when I was a grad student there.

By Michael Kelsey (not verified) on 07 Sep 2015 #permalink

Okay - that is actually quite funny - obviousness does equal stupendous stupefying - i mean, "to the observer" sounds like a brain wash to me - if you are to say matter gets heavier the faster it moves - then, MATTER GETS HEAVIER THE FASTER IT MOVES!

The question you need to ask other than is the paradigm wrong - how can they continue to "teach" such nonsense - meaning "Making No Sense!"

"To the observer" lol - that's funny!

Why does matter get heavier the faster it moves?

BECAUSE:
Gravity is caused by Electromagnetic Energy of Mass

Mass moving over the Dark Energy Field causes Electromagnetic Energy in direct correlation to its speed over the Dark Energy Field

The faster Matter moves, the more Electromagnetic Energy it produces and the more the Dark Energy Field "pushes" on Matter - and the heavier it gets

There are States to the Dark Energy Field - each major magnetic field produces a "bubble" in the field where there is less dark energy in the bubble than out the bubble - so galaxy (core black hole) creates a bubble for the galaxy, star creates a bubble for planets, planet creates a bubble for itself etc etc all the way to the smallest part of the atom...

Think about it!

Orion Michael Guy

By Orion M Guy (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

"The question you need to ask other than is the paradigm wrong – how can they continue to “teach” such nonsense – meaning “Making No Sense!” "

Argument from personal incredulity is a logical fallacy. Your incapacity to understand does not make it false. I don't speak mandarin, but that doesn't mean there is no such language or that it contains only nonsense.

It just doesn't make sense to me.

"Why does matter get heavier the faster it moves?"

Because of the result of taking the idea that the speed of light is a constant and that the results of any experiment must come to the same physical laws and then working out what that means TO those physical laws.

One of which is that mass is no longer a constant.

Read it here:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

Think about it.

This would be interesting and accurate if it takes into account the Dark Energy Field - that is to say - if you know the exact direction of movement over the dark energy field and perform these tests in exact correlation and respect to the movement over the field - this would be correct...

On the other hand, assuming you know what direction the system is moving in, and you send one wave forward and one wave backwards - you will find a discrepancy in the equation, just as you will find the discrepancy between energies of a rotating magnetic ball, one side of the ball is moving faster than the other because no matter what you do, the ball will always be in motion in some direction across the Dark Energy Field

There is a relativity - and its called the Dark Energy Field - and all mass in the Universe is moving through it in some form or another - and as I originally stated, the Universe itself very well may be rotating, all motion creating Gravity and Energy -

Original Question is; would mass become lighter if it stopped moving?

Factoring in the idea that energy is the movement of matter over the Dark Energy Field, and the field itself gives rise to Gravity and Energy, would a true deceleration over the field result in "mass getting lighter?"

Just, for one second, assume that what I have stated is correct - that all Gravity and Energy is a product of Matter Moving over the Dark Energy Field, if matter was to stop moving, would it get lighter?

That's all I want you to think about...

Orion Michael Guy

By Orion M Guy (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

"This would be interesting and accurate if it takes into account the Dark Energy Field"

Why not the Dark Lord of the Sith field? How does gravity work? It's held there by Force Choke.

Duh.

That was an intelligent post - thank you for that!

By Orion M Guy (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Orion: This is really not a useful form for self-published vague ideas and word salad. If you can provide citations to peer reviewed (not vanity press) literature about an alternative theory of gravity in which you are interested, those of us here with proper scientific training are happy to answer questions and discuss it. Random concatenations of scientific words are not useful discussion topics.

By Michael Kelsey (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

Michael, Orion is trolling, he knows he's talking shite and wants it that way.

Treat it as if it has no brain and will never learn and you won't go wrong.

Okay - so no body wants to ask a simple question: If you and sitting next to an elevator, you weight 100 pounds - you get in the elevator and move 100 miles an hour faster than you were - and your weight then increases - than you can agree that when matter moves it gets heavier...

On the other hand, who is to say that you are "still" while simply standing on the ground?

You are 100 pounds and compared to the surface of the earth you are standing on you are relativity not moving

but - how could that be - you know you are moving - and you know you weigh 100 pounds - so who is to say what motion counts?

In my eyes this is so obvious I find it stupendous that no one sees this

I am not trolling, I asked a question and got a couple good answers, and i clarified and elaborated on my question - in my eyes this is a great question; if people cant understand or handle the question then I think they are the narrow minded ones?

Thanks, Orion Michael Guy

PS: this guy calling himself "Wow" who is too scared to identify himself and has no useful answer and keeps attaching me personally instead of evaluating and imputing anything original should be recognized for what he/she/it is...

By Orion M Guy (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Orion #12: You asserted incorrectly, "If you and [sic] sitting next to an elevator, you weight [sic] 100 pounds – you get in the elevator and move 100 miles an hour faster than you were – and your weight then increases ..." Nope, it does not. As far as you are concerned (and if you had a balance scale to sit in you could prove it) your weight is exactly the same either way.

However, what relativity tells us, and what has been very accurately tested, for example at the particle physics lab where I work, is that if I stay sitting next to that elevator, and use some kind of remote sensing to measure your weight, then *I* would claim that you were "heavier" than when you were standing next to me. What I would *really* claim is that you have more total energy when moving than when at rest, and we also know that energy and mass are equivalent.

You will always, in your own frame of reference, measure your own properties as being at rest. If you see someone else whipping past you at high speed, then you can measure (or infer) their properties _as_you_see_them_, which will be different for some of those properties (energy, length, clock speed) than that person themselves sees (at rest).

On a place like Earth, where there are lots of us all looking at things at the same time, we as a group have adopted the convention that "Earth is always at rest", so anyone moving relative to the earth assumes that they are the ones moving. But if they do local measurements, they are doing those measurements in their own local rest frame, by definition. This is the basic concept of relativity which you simply don't seem to understand.

Your followup statements were not merely wrong, they were utterly nonsensical. You strung together a bunch of sciency-sounding words, but you never once formulated a coherent concept. You also didn't ask any actual questions. You made blatant nonsensical assertions, then constructe rhetorical pseudo-questions around them.

By Michael Kelsey (not verified) on 08 Sep 2015 #permalink

"Your followup statements were not merely wrong, they were utterly nonsensical."

Like I said, Orion is trolling. They KNOW that it's utter nonsense. They don't care.

Consider your response useful for anyone unfortunate enough not to know any better and considering that maybe his idiotic woomancer babble was science.

@ Orion "I am not trolling, I asked a question and got a couple good answers, and i clarified and elaborated on my question – in my eyes this is a great question; if people cant understand or handle the question then I think they are the narrow minded ones?"

If you are genuinely here to learn, I think it is generally a good approach to assume that if you think you have spotted something that the world's most brilliant and focused minds have missed, you are almost certainly wrong. Treat this blog as a chance to ask some of the slightly less brilliant practising scientists who post here to explain to you where you are misunderstanding the physics, rather than try and justify your misunderstanding by making stuff up or parrotting somebody else's errors or misconceptions.

If, however you are a potential Nobel winner in the field of Astrophysics, the scientific comunity is waiting for your insight into how we measure the "Dark Energy Field" and determine how fast we are moving through it.

David, that bit you quoted ends in a question mark but is not a question.

Which is not supportive of the "hidden genius" option.

Moreover, one of his "good answers" was one I made about how we needed to consider the Dark Lord of the Sith Field too, and how it can create gravity from the use of Force Choke, a sith power.

Another strike against the "hidden genius".

And strikes against his "come here to learn" is his insistence that some random blabble that mixes in science words that make absolutely no sense in the streamofconscousnessbollocks written is actually valid and understandable and that anyone NOT understanding it must be "closed minded".

Back to the article...

If it's remarkable that Zeta Oph is moving at 24km/s, note that its "kicker", pulsar PSR B1929+10, is moving much faster at 177km/s according to the ESA link.

Okay - so - if everything is relativistic - then if I am on a 100 foot long space ship traveling at 99% the speed of light - and I shine a laser from the back of the space ship to the front of the space ship - would that mean that the laser is traveling at about twice the speed of light?

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 09 Sep 2015 #permalink

Relax - its just a theory - he just got carried away because he is not well - how could he think of such a think and anyways its always helpful to consider other strange theories - if you are sure in your equations, than anything can help

By Relax - its ju… (not verified) on 09 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Orion "Okay – so – if everything is relativistic – ".....

My God, I think he's got it...

"...then if I am on a 100 foot long space ship traveling at 99% the speed of light – and I shine a laser from the back of the space ship to the front of the space ship – would that mean that the laser is traveling at about twice the speed of light?"

... or maybe not!

How do you know you are travelling at 99% speed of light? By looking out of the windows? If you see stars, how do you know the stars are not all moving the other way at 99% the speed of light? The essence of relativity is that you never can know.. Light travels at 1foot/ns, so if you switch on your laser, you will see it reflected back from the far end of your spaceship after 200ns. A friend in a matching spaceship along side you will see the same. What will other friends see as you fly past them (regardless of which of you is "stationary")? Well there is absolutely no point moving on to a more complicated scenario unless you have shown you have grasped the basics first.

To add to my previous comment, we don't even need to worry about the complexities of Relataivistic Mechanics to illustrate the problem with your example. It fails even where Newtonian Mechanics apply . As a thought experiment, do you think passengers on Concorde would only be able to speak to other passengers behind them once it was travelling at more than mach 1? Sadly you can no longer perform this as a real world experiment.

Drop a cup next time you're flying at 600mph and watch it scoot back at 600mph smacking some poor schmuck in the face who is leaning out into the aisle wondering what you're doing with an empty cup in your hand, leaning out into the aisle and looking back.

PROOF that the earth is stationary and an absolute frame of reference!

Okay - so the correct answer to this Question is:

"Okay – so – if everything is relativistic – then if I am on a 100 foot long space ship traveling at 99% the speed of light – and I shine a laser from the back of the space ship to the front of the space ship – would that mean that the laser is traveling at about twice the speed of light?"

The correct answer is:

No - the laser is traveling at 1% the speed of light, but because you are at 99% the speed of light, your time has slowed by 99% so the laser, traveling at 1% the speed of light would still look "to the observer' as "full speed" - the laser in fact cannot travel faster than the speed of light - that is why there is a speed of light - if it was relativistic as you claim, than there would be no speed of light and the laser could move at about twice the speed of light - but it can't - why not?

Because Electromagnetic Energy of Mass increases the faster it travels - because Electromagnetic Energy repels the Dark Energy Field - this gives rise to Gravity, and because the "Movement of Matter" over the Dark Energy Field itself gives rise to Electromagnetic Energy - Matter gets heavier the faster it moves! This increase in Electromagnetic Energy proportionally repels the Dark Energy Field -

What is Time? Time is the "Tick Rate" of the interaction of Energy (Matter) and Dark Energy or Space, or also known as "Space-Time" - so as the Mass travels faster and faster, it pushes harder and harder on the Dark Energy Field - and in doing so, it pushes more and more Dark Energy away from itself - and the Dark Energy Field pushes harder and harder - this increases the Weight; as Far as Time goes, as the Mass's Electromagnetic Energy increases, it pushes more and more Dark Energy away from itself, and therefore there is less and less interaction between Matter and Dark Energy and less "Tick Rate" or what I like to call 1Cycles - less and less 1Cysles can occur!

Umm - and they have confirmed that there is more "Energy the faster Matter moves - they just haven't figures it out yet - it's called "Annual Modulation" and as the Earth goes into an "Upswing" around the Sun, more energy is detected - and when the Earth is in a "Downswing" around the Sun, less Energy is detected

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/september-2015/xmass-continues-…

Electromagnetic Energy is Directly linked to the speed of "Movement of Matter" over the Dark Energy Field - so the faster something moves the more energetic it gets and the heavier it gets - This is also the cause for the last 5 ice ages - each lasting about 100/120 million years, or about half the Galactic Year - this being the "downswing" - as for the last 5 Extinction Events - this is caused by the peak of the "upswing" as the sun nears peak upswing it gets really energetic and very hot - this causes a Mars on Earth Effect for a few dozen million years here on earth... (Bleak I know) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1971325/) Automata the movie depicts this coming occurrence quite well

I am not an Atheist, more a Deist, that not even being accurate - I believe the Universe itself is God, though the concept of God itself may be miss leading because we as Humans can't actually identify with such concepts... So anyway, thank God that Earth's Orbit it Perpendicular to the Galactic Orbit - there's even a Cross in that Statement!

As for the Dark Energy Field, all Matter creates a Magnetic Field - this is the true cause of Gravity and There are States to the Dark Energy Field – each major magnetic field produces a “bubble” in the field where there is less dark energy in the bubble than out the bubble – so galaxy (core black hole) creates a bubble for the galaxy, star creates a bubble for planets, planet creates a bubble for itself etc etc all the way to the smallest part of the atom…

Even the word "Magnify" means exactly what it means - as Iron at the core of large massive objects compresses hard enough to "magnify" they literally mean exactly that - not only is the core becoming "magnetic" but it is "magnifying" the Electromagnetic Energy of the Core - "Magnify: 1. Make (something) appear larger than it is, especially with a lens or microscope. - 2. to make greater in actual size; enlarge"

Even the word light means both luminescence and lack of weight... where light has to travel as fast as it does because it is so light - the speed itself is what is maintaining its structure... Oh, yea and light is a particle traveling on a ripple of the Dark Energy Field...

I could go on forever but i'd bore myself to death...

This is True,
Orion Michael Guy

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 11 Sep 2015 #permalink

@Orion "The correct answer is:

.....so the laser, ..........would still look “to the observer’ as “full speed” – the laser in fact cannot travel faster than the speed of light"

That bit at least is sort of right, but the rest is shows a complete misunderstanding of science as we know it. You have clearly a flimsy grasp of the notion that every observer perceives "time" (and therefore measured speed) differently. A start I suppose, but your insistence on inventing a "Dark Energy Field" against which speed must be measured reintroduces all the problems that relativiy solves. Nobody has ever detected a "Dark Energy Field", let alone shown that we are moving through it rather than it moving through us.

"I could go on forever but i’d bore myself to death… "

That might not be such a bad thing. But let's try and keep the death rate down for now by narrowing down the scope of your comments. How about sticking to a simple rule? If you want to make something up (e.g. "Dark Energy Field") you at least try and expiain what it is without making anything else up.

Okay - so, I'm not going to get into what my original question was, or how if there is a speed of light and if the faster you move the heavier you get; and that if you "slow down" you get lighter, etc.

Part 1.

I'll start at the Beginning - and this is sure to get you worked up!

I will say - Relativity, and Space-Time are the fundamental foundation for this theory, so it does not change much, many equations are the same, it just adds to them.

As for a round 1 sucker punch; Conservation of Momentum is Falsified - To say an object in motion in space - with no other force or anything at all to hinder the movement of the object - will continue moving at the same speed and direction forever until it is impacted upon is completely incorrect - even at the lowest speed possible - if there is "something" that will prevent mass and energy from traveling faster than the speed of light - than that something is going to have an impact on all mass in the Universe - including slow moving objects!

That was an orderve (Hors d'oeuvre)

And here we go:

Seeking the questions you ask, we need to start at the top, or the Big Band, we need to ask, what is Space, what is Time, what is Energy and Mass/Matter and where or how did it all come into existence?

To those questions, on the highest of levels I cannot really say exactly where did it all comes from and why, but starting from the Big Bang, I can extrapolate the evolution and convergence, the emergence and analytical consequence of the occurrence and enlighten the path a little more...

So, based on our own reality, I can take the theory beyond our Universe and elevate it to a Higher Dimension - and this all has to do with Black Holes, with the confirmation of the Existence of Black Holes (Something Eisenstein didn't have the luxury of knowing, let alone the confirmation of their Unity with Galaxies - nor their Magnetic Fields...)

So, looking at the Black Hole, I will superimpose a reality atop our own, and Start with the hypothesis that when we here on earth are looking at the Bottom of the Black Hole, we are in fact looking at the Top of our reality, and I will call this the "Cascading Universe" where each Black Hole Massive Enough has the potential of Crystallizing into its own Universe...

Now, we can finally start at the Top!

Compression into the Black Hole - wee... down and down we go!

To understand this realm of reality you have to grasp onto something solid - you're in a virtual world of flux, you're in a worm hole, and energy arks and the grandest of nebula are swirling shimmering and attempting to solidify, only to decohere and recohere - you are in the realm of Entanglement - and ultimately Entanglement Energy is the Energy of the Universe, everything forever entangled with which it originates, all matter cascading from a "True Creation" from a single source, consciousness or God...

With this said - the takeaway is that "Everything is connected" and that "Everything is Entangled" and that "ALL is Entanglement Energy" in some form or another... so to elevate our perspective from this deep dive into the realm of the consciousness we need to look at the Universe from a prospective that reality itself is a matrix of sorts and that underlying our ordinary lives there are realities and physicality that do go FAR BEYON our human brains comfort zone...

So, as Matter compresses into the Black Hole, as the Hole gets large enough, let's say 10 Billion times that Mass of our Sun (this value is a place holder - undetermined , or indeterminate) The core of the Black Hole Crystallizes and falls in Dimensions and creates a "Dimensional Shift."

I will skip over the exact details of this whole process, (I haven't even begun to explain what Dark Energy is yet, so I will round back to this at the bottom...) but just know that from the Universe the Black Hole fell, it is still in that Universe - it is still Entangled in the Universe from which it originated, but the mass has fallen into a new "Level Plain" in the Dark Energy Field

Okay - quick note; Level Plain and Universal Membrane are two things superimposed upon each other, though they are not the same - the Level Plain is the Dimension, but it is not space, and in theory is nothing, or infinity, that is to say - the Level Plain is the level that space falls into - but is not space, it's more a place holder if you were running a computer simulation and you said all traffic going in and out of this area is tagged with an orange marker - Nothing could go into the level plain and there would be no tags, or infinity could go through the level plain and all would be tagged with an orange marker

The Universal Membrane on the other hand is space - this is the Dark Energy Field in its entirety within the Level Plane - once Matter has broken free and fallen in dimensions it is met with nothing, no Energy, Dark Energy, Space, Gravity, or Time - when we have that pinpoint first Contact with this new Level Plain, as the Mass from a Super Massive Black Hole Crystallizes into its own Universe and falls through the "Dimensional Shift" into a new Level Plain and creates a new Universe - there is NOTHING, nothing at all...!!!

And therefore there is No Gravity, No Time, No Space, No Energy, nothing at all to hold the Mass of the Super Massive Black Hole together and we get a Bang - a Big Bang - but actually there is no time, space or gravity - so the mass of the Supermassive Black Hole has nothing holding it back - nothing holding it together and so as it expands outwards - there is nothing to measure, nothing to determine its rate of expansions, but it does decompress, and in doing so expands outwards to encompass its maximum expansion and in doing so starts to create space, time and gravity - all of which I will explain...

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

Part 2.

I should note here that the Universe is a Binary System, Energy (Matter) and Dark Energy, so as the Mass of the Supermassive Black Hole crashed through the Level Plain, not only did the Mass come through, but it pulled with it some Dark Energy as well... Also of Note, all Mass is a combination of Energy and Dark Energy - referred to herein as "Local Entanglement" - we'll elaborate on this further, but just note that all Mass is slowly decompressing or "decaying" into more Dark Energy or Space - Space and Dark Energy are the same thing, but the word "Space" does not fully encompass a visual representation of what it really is, hence the "Dark Energy" vocular

So, as the expansion of the Mass reaches its limits and has stretched and started to cool, some of the most stretched coolest Mass starts to decay into Dark Energy and starts to create a new field, a new Dark Energy Field or Space - where Space, Time and Gravity all form up into a new Space-Time Continuum and the field starts to permeate around all Mass, slowly giving rise to Gravity - and as the field strengthens, through the decay of Matter, (and possibly from an influx of Dark Energy from the original wormhole connecting the New Universe to its Host Universe,) Gravity stats to take hold and Mass starts to collapse in on itself

(Remember - at this point the Mass is a Giant Ball of Hydrogen - as the Iron Core crashed down from above, into the new Dimension, with nothing holding it back - the Iron Core expanded - but because there is no interaction with anything (Dark Energy) the "Hydrogen" was not actually Hydrogen, more it was just the Proton, or, more; it was just the Quark; or "Local Entanglement" - I'll explain, but needless to say - Electrons and "Wave Particles" or "Massless Particles" do not exists without Dark Energy - they are the result, the sparks if you will, of Energy (Matter) and Dark Energy interacting... I call these Particles "Simple Entanglement")

Gravity can be defined as Mass's Electromagnetic Energy that pushes on the Dark Energy Field - so as the Dark Energy Field started to come into being and strengthen, it started to move Mass, as Mass starts to move it starts to generate Electromagnetic Energy and at the same time starts to push on the Dark Energy Field - while the Dark Energy Field equally starts pushing back, as the field grows, the cycle falls into a force feedback loop if you will, more Dark Energy, more Gravity, more Gravity, more Movement of Matter - more Electromagnetic Energy, repeat, etc...

As Gravity takes hold and all the stretched Mass starts to fall in on itself, and as its energy levels start to rise, the rate of the Mass's decay also increases, and so there is a rapid period of turmoil and energy, creation of new structures that rapidly blow themselves apart, and recombine, Black holes that form and feed so fast that they actually explode, and reform over and over again, all while decaying into more space or Dark Energy, all giving rise to the Dark Energy Field as all Matter decays and converts into more Space or Dark Energy, and all the while kicking the whole ball of wax into a frenetic frenzy of motion and Solidification occurs!

At this point the Universe has evolved, decayed and expanded to what we see today and all matter is slowly converting or decaying into more Space or Dark Energy (Space & Dark Energy are the same thing - Space IS the Entangled Information of all Matter, as Matter converts and converges, its energy & "information" decays into more Space, or Dark Energy - Dark Energy is the Keeper of Time and Change, and all Space/Dark Energy is a record of the convergence & evolution of all Matter - Where there is no Dark Energy there is no time)

You could say the Universe as we know it is in a slow spiral Implosion from its original state, but because all Mass is decaying into more Space or Dark Energy, it would appear that the Universe is stretching and expanding - this is true and an optical illusion at the same time, the Space is Expanding, while the Mass is shrinking - this is why we see the Universe starting to stretch itself into strands, or filaments, the "Web of the Cosmos" is a twofold phenomenon of this occurrence and ultimately, the most stretched outer wisps of the "Giant Ball of Energy" will be pulled on, pulled in at the same time the gaps or "Voids" between the filaments will continue to enlarge, all Mass eventually on a rail of motion rotating around the Center of the Universe, where the Wormhole between Universe Exists... all circling the drain for an eventual return to the original Universe from which it originated... Super Massive Black Hole Super Nova! Say that three times fast - it's not that hard- lol!

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This could also be referred to as the "Firmament" - if Biblical Text is accurate one could assume we are 3 levels down in this "Cascade of Matter" - Also "Divided the Waters from the Waters" this is referring to the Dark Energy Field - as the Dark Energy Field has a Liquid Quality to itself, yet it does not interact with itself, or more precisely, does not strongly interact with itself.

There are so many words in the English Language that have accurate scientific meanings, one could only conclude that original Biblical Doctrine was a scientific metaphor before the concepts of science even existed - take the words; Light, or Magnify, or envIRONment, take the concept that the Universe gave birth to itself, had no father, or so many other commonalities - factor in that over 150 of the Dead Sea Scrolls that predate the Bible itself but are known to be manuscripts of Biblical Text are "Classified"!!!??? Why would ancient text about Religious Doctrine be Classified? and kept secret? - I'm just saying... Arc of the Covenant anyone? Black Hole in a Box...? Radioactive for sure... I digress...

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Continued... Orion Michael Guy

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

Part 3.

So, breaking down the interaction of the Universe, Energy and Dark Energy, with Hydrogen as the Simplest form of Matter, with its Nucleus; Protons and Neutrons and Ultimately Quarks as the foundation of Mass or Matter, compressed and bound by Entanglement Energy forever connected from the Mass of which they originated, each atom with a virtual shaft, on one side of the Pole, connected to the Heart of the Black Hole from which they are entangled, on the other side of the Pole is the Energetic Potential of Infinite Energy, each atom in its structure forming a Spring of Energetic Potential, visualized as a shaft with a tightly wound string of Energy, in many ways representing a coil magnet.

Now, how this Matter interacts with Dark Energy and how it is able to maintain structure and not unravel instantaneously is the key to the whole show - as even the word "Instantaneously" is a representation of Time - and Time is the key to the Equation, Evolution and Foundation of All!

You could look at Time as Rate of Decay of Matter, as Matter Decays it is actually unraveling, decompressing and converting its Energy into Dark Energy, or Space - so this is also visualized as a "Tick Rate" - I will dive deeper in a moment, but the "Tick Rate" or "Time" is all bound by the "Environment" - This is Classic Relativity - This is Space-Time and this is Quantum Mechanics all combined into one Unified Theory.

(Of note - Iron is King - all Major Mass when compressed hard enough will transfuse into Iron - Hydrogen, through compression will convert through the base elements to Iron - exotic elements that do not occur in stars, or occur in low quantity levels are not entered into these equations and the Standard Model and Periodic Table are not challenged)

Upon this logic, one can conclude that all Matter is a form of Time, all Matter is a Battery of Energy, of Time Energy, and regardless of its configuration, the core fundamental foundation is the Quark, and its Energy Potential...

To dive deep into Matter you also have to dive into the nature of Dark Energy - and understand what the interaction is between the two - for that we need to look at the Dark Energy Field further

The Dark Energy Field is a Computation of sorts, and can only interact at a specific defined rate for the state its in - that is to say there are different states to the Dark Energy Field - or what I like to call Quantum Gravity - At each state of the Dark Energy Field, the interaction with Matter changes, the more Dark Energy, the more interaction with Matter and the more Time can pass, or the higher the "Tick Rate" - the more Dark Energy the Faster Time and Light occur

Looking at the Universe we break this down into 10 States of the Dark Energy Field, or 10 States of Quantum Gravity - at each State the rate of Time and therefore the Speed of Light changes - the more Dark Energy; the more Time.

So, the same force that creates Gravity is the same force as all, but you have to remember the definition of Quantum Leap... We know that EVERYTHING behaves based on a Quantum State, if there is a circle from 1, 2, 3, 4 all the way to 10, and there is no gradient in between... Then; The Dark Energy Field Effect will behave differently at each state

Each "Shell" of these States is defined by a Magnetic Field, or "Gravity Field" as Matter progressively gets Heavier/Denser - Dark Energy progressively gets Lighter/Thinner - Where Dark Energy progressively gets Heavier/Denser - Matter Progressively gets Thinner/Lighter -

How can that be you ask - that is a Paradox! Answer is: Electromagnetic Energy is caused by Matter moving over the Dark Energy Field - the heavier the field the more Electromagnetic Energy -

Electromagnetic Energy comes at a cost - at the Quanta of the Interaction between Energy (Matter) and Dark Energy electric charges generate and attempt to grip each other, though never strong enough to make a lasting Entanglement - they are in fact the "Simple Entanglement" - the Wave Particles - Photons and Electrons , they are the very cause of the "Speed of Light" and the reason for the limitation of the "Movement of Matter" over the Dark Energy Field -

So, as the Field gets heavier; Matter tends to slow - as Matter slows, it gets lighter, as it gets lighter it gets "thinner" - the effect can be seen by Hyper Velocity Star Explosions...!!! - as a Star gets ejected from its Galaxy; and its original State of Gravity - as it moves out of the Galaxies Shell ("Quantum State of Gravity", "Magnetic Field", or "Gravity Zone") -

It enters into a "Heavier Dark Energy Zone" - its Momentum in this new zone causing it to become very energetic, and its gona pop one way or another! It's increase in Electromagnetic Energy can cause it to Supernova, or it will get very energetic and burn through its fuel, start to slow down, to the point that it gets too light and wants to get thinner - and that it does - again - Supernova - poor Star! -

But this is also the reason why Galaxies "Grow" from the Inside out - as the massive heavy Mass rotates around the Galaxy starts to build at the outer edge of the Galaxy, because Mass is moving "faster" on the outer edge, compared to the inner area, the outer edge gets heavier and heavier, and as this dense Mass pulls away from the Galaxy it explodes into lighter, thinner structures! - While the whole galactic structure is then able to reconfigure and re-enforce itself...

Think of it this way - State 1 of the Dark Energy Field is inherently tied to the original black hole our universe is entangled in.

State 2 would be the most expansive void in outer space - the "Center of the Universe" where there is the Wormhole connecting out Universe to the Universe "above us"

State 3 would be the large expanses of empty space between all else

State 4 would be "the Dark Matter" State, where the Dark Energy still has large amounts of hot energetic mass newly decayed and converted to Dark Energy causing an unseen level of "extra" gravity - where all known matter tends to converge - This is Galactic Magnetisms...

Continued - Orion Michael Guy

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

Part 4.

State 5 would be "Gravity" as we know it in Human terms here on Earth and within our Solar System

State 6 though 9 would be the Atomic Forces, the layers of Magnetic Fields within the Atom with the 9th State being the Quark or "Local Entanglement"

And finally; 0 - The potential for a new Level Plane... Compression into a new Universe/s of this Universe. And a Cascade of Universes, all tied to the Original Universe! (State 10 is a Black Hole)

The Atomic Dark Energy Field Effect range is from Quantum States 6 through 9, and of course starting all over again at 0 or 1, or at 1+0 or 10... once compression is so intense that it creates a new Black Hole (0 through 9, and then back to 0... Cascading Universe...)

State 9 is the Quark - or Local Entanglement - this is the state where Dark Energy and Energy Entangle and create the foundation of Matter & Energy in the "Known Universe" and where the Electromagnetic Energy is created

This is also the state with the least amount of Dark Energy - there is no state below this because there is no possible way for Energy and Dark Energy to get any closer - this is the state where Energy and Dark Energy Entangle - and this is the building block of all matter - (It takes an extreme amount of energy to create "Local Entanglement" - the force from compression into a Black Hole, or the 10th Quantum State, is required) (Where there is no Dark Energy there is no Time - just as Space-Time will tell you Time and Space are one in the same)

At this 9th Quantum State Time is very slow - this is because each field "above it" each of the "Gravity Shells" above it has pushed away more and more Dark Energy - so at this final State there is the least amount of Dark Energy and therefore the least amount of "Time" or "Tick Rate" - so imagine this "Tick Rate" as a Cycle - there is 1Cycle - Though there is only 1Cycle at this state imagine 1Cycle taking 1 thousand years, but only 1 second from the perspective of the next "lighter" state

So in 1,000 years this "Entangled Particle" can shift and vibrate in every possible way and configuration but is seem as 1 second passing (from the perspective of the 8th Quantum State) - and therefore it looks and feels solid (quantities are placeholders/examples)

At the 8th Quantum State of Matter these basic "Entangled Particles" entangle together, but now the proportion of Energy and Dark Energy is Different - the particles pair or group up - so now you have (as an example) 3 "Entangled Particles" associated with more Dark Energy, say 9 Dark Energy Particles; 3 Dark Energy Particles for every "Entangled Particle"

And again, now you have 3 "Entangled Particles" Entangled with 9 Dark Energy Particles - or not particles, but units, Dark Energy is ultimately Energy - and so is therefore not a particle at all - so, you have 3 "Entangled Particles" with (as an example) 9 Units of Dark Energy

Dark Energy is space, and space is Dark Energy, so, ONLY the 9th Quantum State has an exact configuration of Energy & Dark Energy Entanglement. Starting at the 8th Quantum State and above, the amount of Dark Energy, and therefore space, to entangle with these most fundamental particles can vary depending on the pressure the particles are in... So, if at the 8th Quantum State you have 3 Entangles Particles that are usually associated with 9 Dark Energy Units, but because the matter is under so much pressure that the "space" is squeezed out, you will find that where there are usually 9 Dark Energy Units, depending on the pressure there will be less Dark Energy Units because they have been squeezed out, and so time will slow because there is less Dark Energy in the Same amount of space to calculate 1Cycle...

Looking at this we can then see that Matter has "Evolved" to accommodate this environment - where it has combined itself in such a way that as is compresses - it magnifies, that is to say, once Matter has compressed from Hydrogen, through the Elements to Iron, it cannot compress anymore, and Iron then compresses to a point where it Crystallizes into a Magnetic State - where it's Magnetic Field "Magnifies" or "Enlarges" around the mass in an effort to stave off the Dark Energy Field! This is the Building Blocks of all Structure in the Universe - as I said Iron is King!

Once the Iron Core of Mass reaches a threshold and becomes "heavy" enough, and as its energy or magnetic field intensifies enough, as matter continues to fall in onto the core and instantly compress into Iron, it creates a Time Dilation Field, and a new Black Hole is born, where the Electromagnetic Energy is so magnified that it pushes so much Dark Energy away from itself that there is literally nothing for "Wave Particles" or Light to travel through - at this point the Core is considered a Black Hole!

(Electro Magnetic Energy is a property of the Dark Energy Field - and as I said - the Field does not interact with itself, or strongly interact with itself...)

I can go on, and break down the dynamics even further - but this is a general overarch of the structure of the Universe - or the "Universal Construct"

This is True,
Orion Michael Guy

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

"I am not an Atheist, more a Deist, that not even being accurate – I believe the Universe itself is God,"

Then you are a "Pantheists".

By Ragtag Media (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

"and this is sure to get you worked up"

Not worked up - but I did stop just after your "Big Band" when you got to " I can take the theory beyond our Universe and elevate it to a Higher Dimension "

I don't need mental dysentery from reading the rest of your crap-infested word salad. It's no better than the stuff any of the (unfortunately still present) creationist clowns post.

" It’s no better than the stuff any of the (unfortunately still present) creationist clowns post."
dean, since by your own thought process, your "stuff" is the Best of the Sears, Roebuck & Company "Good, Better, Best" presentations here would you be so gracious to give a compare and contrast?

By Ragtag Media (not verified) on 13 Sep 2015 #permalink

@ O M Guy

As a reminder from Ethan .....
' the comment section is the place to go off on whatever tangents you want, so I don’t mind. I only ask — and it’s not an order, just an ask — the following:

That you be decent to one another.
That you treat each other with a minimum modicum of respect, even when you disagree.

And that you don’t go off the deep end, promoting your own crazy crackpot theories.

That’s my ask. That is all. '

“and this is sure to get you worked up”

If you're already predicting people will be pissed off if they read your post, then the only sensible choice we have is not to read your post.

Not too smart, are you.

"once Matter has compressed from Hydrogen, through the Elements to Iron, it cannot compress anymore"

Apart from all the elements above Iron.

"Think of it this way – State 1 of the Dark Energy Field is inherently tied to the original black hole our universe is entangled in. "

Complete failure to understand the big bang.

"To dive deep into Matter you also have to dive into the nature of Dark Energy"

Begging the question.

"one could only conclude that original Biblical Doctrine was a scientific metaphor before the concepts of science even existed"

Woomancer christian BS.

"This could also be referred to as the “Firmament” – if Biblical Text is accurate one could assume we are 3 levels down in this “Cascade of Matter"

Begging the question and nonconsequential claims.

"The Universal Membrane on the other hand is space"

Incoherent analogy extended to idiocy.

"With this said – the takeaway is that “Everything is connected” and that “Everything is Entangled” and that “ALL is Entanglement Energy” in some form or another…"

Meaningless drivel.

@Orion
So when I ask "How about sticking to a simple rule? If you want to make something up (e.g. “Dark Energy Field”) you at least try and explain what it is without making anything else up.", you respond by making up an entire essay!

I really don't have time to carefully read all your posts, but after a superficial scan I think I can precis them as:

I am the most brilliant scientist the world has ever known. The entire scientific community is so hypnotised by a set of Theories that accurately predict the behaviour of what we see around us that almost all Scientists are oblivious to the nature of the underlying universe. My forthcoming paper on how to measure my motion with respect to the “Dark Energy Field” will be the first on many that will leave the world of science reeling.

I get an impression of somebody who, having dazzled his scientifically illiterate friends with his grasp of astrophysics over a few pints, now thinks he can move on to do the same with practising Scientists and Engineers. If you can post a single example of where your physics gives a more accurate answer than accepted theory, the scientific community will be all ears. If it can be something relating to the accurate prediction of time as seen by GPS satellite clocks, an area where I have professional interest, I will certainly be listening, as I would almost certainly need to get my business at the head of the queue waiting to pay for your expertise. If your ideas explain the universe better, then all homage due will be given. But I am inclined to think your time might be more profitably spent investigating the Dunning-Kruger effect.

David, the problem can be assessed from this blank statement from old onion here:

“once Matter has compressed from Hydrogen, through the Elements to Iron, it cannot compress anymore”

And he "thinks" that because of EnvIRONment, this is true

Lead? A conspiracy. Never mind the transuranics.

Well Wow Orion has clearly at least understood the concept that IRON is special as the end product of the normal stellar fusion path, but has yet to catch up with the next chapter in the story of element creation. But do remember IRON is biblically special too, it is like Kryptonite to the Old Testament god. In Judges 1:19 he is powerless to defeat the enemies of his chosen people because they are armed with “chariots of iron”.

I had missed the “envIRONment” bit though. Orion, are you really trying to suggest that a string of four letters in a word of a language that did not exist until a thousand years after our current Bible was written, and did not have standardised spelling for another 500 years after that, somehow turns the Bible into a Science manual?

My irony meter also needs a reset after reading “There so many words in the English Language that have accurate scientific meanings,....” used to back up one point in amongst the thousands of words he has written mutilating those precise meanings.

And on top of that Orion, you seem to be a Conspiracy Theorist too. If for the sake of argument the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls are being suppressed, you need to ask who has motive to do this, and I can see two possible scenarios. If you are contending that back in the fourth century the compliers of the current Bible carefully removed all parts of the ancient texts that made the Bible a Science Book (rather than use that knowledge to make their lives easier,) then clearly today those who have rediscovered those secrets have a strong incentive to use the knowledge to maintain “THEIR” grip on the world. Alternatively, if the compliers of the current Bible carefully removed all parts of the ancient texts that did not fit into the mould of the religion they were trying to create, then the leaders of all variants of Christianity have a strong incentive to suppress that rediscovered knowledge to maintain their grip on the world. Care for a bet on that?

I have made some revisions to the draft above, mainly that the Universe, while decaying, is actually able to generate an excess of Energy and therefor Matter, and so as the Universe (The Continuum) continues to expand and grow, so do all the Supermassive Black Holes and the Universes within them, so over time, those Supermassive Black Holes are also able to produce an excess of energy and actually feed Matter Back Into The Universe;

Continuing the Continuum

More updates to come

Orion Michael Guy

By Orion Michael Guy (not verified) on 07 Jun 2016 #permalink