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The inaugural Canadian Engineering Education Association Conference will be held this year from June 7-9 at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario.
On the heels of David Warlick's session on using online tools in the science cl
This semester, I co-taught a course on the history and philosophy of engineering education for graduate students.
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I'm pretty sure I reduced some VLA data on OJ287 once upon a time, but it has been so long, I don't remember for sure...

Anyway, just curious what everyone here thinks about Prof. Astronomy's assertion that astronomers transitioning out of academia have a hard time getting past HR departments for jobs?

I have witnessed the opposite result -- I tell people that *everyone* I know that has left the field at every level (e.g., just a bachelors didn't go to grad school, left grad school with a masters, got a PhD and left, got a PhD did one postdoc and left...) has found a satisfying, challenging position that pays pretty well to very, very well. Maybe it's a selection effect that I only keep in touch with the ones who are happy, but I'm pretty sure that's not true.

I'm pretty certain that the undergrad who worked with me for years and went right into industry negotiated a starting salary with a bachelors that it took me three years post-PhD to reach.

In this economy, I know that none of us can take the availability of jobs for granted, but I'm not as scared as I might be based on the experience of friends (and the knowledge that I can hit them up to circulate a resume, if needed).

I'm not going to dispute the central premise that stable jobs for PhDs primarily doing research are in high demand, but I think that the picture of outside opportunities being hard to come by is too pessimistic.

I don't think it's HR departments specially hating on PhDs, I think it's that when you are outside of academia, you still get rejected a lot, especially if you don't have any contacts or direct experience in a field. Someone inside academia has few contacts on the outside and this makes the transition hard. It is especially hard in bad economic times, because finding a job sucks then. I spent a couple of years between BA and grad school trying to find jobs in a recession and it sucked lots, and I wasn't being held back by a PhD.