Michael Egnor. Who?

In the back-channels here on Scienceblogs and on Panda's Thumb we were discussing the pros and cons of paying so much attention to one Dr.Michael Egnor, a new creationist shill for the Discovery Institute. Yes, it feels like a tremendous waste of time to debunk incredibly stupid (and incredibly old and well-worn and well-debunked) claims of a very minor figure in the anti-Enlightenment movement.

But, who knows, one day he may appear in MSM (you know how they like to show "both sides" of everything!) and some journalist (or just interested people) will like to know who this Michael Egnor is.

What's the first thing the journalist will do? Go to Google, of course, and search for Michael Egnor on Google Web Search and/or Google Blog Search. If you do the same, you will see there is quite a lot about him as a surgeon, and quite a lot written by Creationists in his support. What is the journalist (or interested person) to do? Believe that crap? Well, no. Because science bloggers have spent time debunking his arguments, about a third of all hits on Google searches are to their blog posts, exposing him for an ignorant witch-doctor as he is. Unfortunately, it appears that Google treats Scienceblogs.com as one blog an thus shows only two posts from here instead of something like 40.

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By Michael Suttkus, II (not verified) on 20 Mar 2007 #permalink

If I were a Google engineer and I was working on the problem of subverting the attempts of Google Bombers, I think that searching for blog posts that contain the same linked text string over and over again would be a good place to start.

Just saying.

That said, I'm sure that the attentions scienceblogs have given Egnor will do enough to alter the search results favorably.

At the moment however, the second entry in a Google search is for nymag article on the best doctors of 2005. Which is a bit scary to say the least.

By George Dickeson (not verified) on 20 Mar 2007 #permalink

A little anecdote ... you supply the relevance and/or meaning ...

Around 1980, I sat next to my Florida newspaper's religion editor. Her knee was giving her trouble, so she was referred to an orthopedic surgeon, who operated, the surgery was successful, she returned to work.

Creationism had just begun to become newsworthy and controversial, and to research stories about creationism's growning impact on education, my colleague was in regular phone contact with the USA's most well-known creationism organization, in southern California.

Grateful for their cooperation, she nevertheless wanted the local angle, and asked her Los Angeles creationist contact if creationism had a spokesperson closer to our newspaper.

He did indeed, and gave her the name and phone number of the orthopedic surgeon who'd recently been carving around inside her leg.

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